Does anyone have any further info or photographs of these three men? As far as I know, Dandy Jim was a man in high regard - among his fellow scouts, as well as among the soldiers and officers. The day before the hanging, he presented a woman with his necklace...
Following the battle of Cibecue, the three White Mountain scouts—Dead Shot, Dandy Jim and Skitashe—were court martialed and hanged here for their part in that fateful affair. They were hanged from a specially constructed gallows on the parade ground of this post on March 3, 1882. A battalion, including two companies of Indian Scouts, along with Troops A, B and I, 6th U.S. Cavalry, and Company E, 12th U.S. Infantry, provided dismounted security for the event. The day before the hanging, as scores of civilians from the surrounding countryside began to arrive, Dandy Jim called to Mrs. Gilbert C. Smith, wife of Captain Smith, the post quartermaster. Seeing him through a window of the post guardhouse, he presented her with a colorful necklace of fine glass, Indian trade beads (probably sky blue Spanish Padre beads and beautiful red ‘White Hearts’). In broken English the Indian told her that she should have these, because he must "pretty soon hang." Sidney B. Brinkerhoff described this as ‘a sad final gesture from a condemned man.’
I recently came over an image of his necklace, but can't find it anymore. Not sure if I even saved it on my computer...
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Another very interesting, influental and important individual was Captain Jack. I am sure the must be a photograph of him, but either he's not identified by name, or I haven't seen it yet.
Does anyone know more about it, does anyone have a picture of Captain Jack? He was sent to the Arizona State Penitentiary after a feud with chief Casadora - in fact, Jack wasn't the aggressor, but John Clum just favored Casadora; that set the fate for Captain Jack.
There is one BIG error in this statement from the Fort Apache handout:
Fort Apache was never under attack by any hostel force, never ever, as U.S. Army records will confirm! The only battle fought in that area since the arrival of the U.S. troops was on the mesa across the river where two Apache clans fought a deadly battle over a reason no one remembers. Further research will prove to you that the Tucson Citizen, and other Tucson newspapers printed the story of the attack on Fort Apache before Nock-eye-dei-klinne was assassinated, because they expected the assassination would result in an Apache uprising. In fact, the assassination had the opposite effect, with every noteworthy Apache immediately taking cover, some (including Geronimo) fleeing the Reservation, because of the fear of being hung. U.S. Army records will confirm that (a) The Tucson Ring were wholly responsible for the assassination (Nock-eye-dei-klinne was a peaceful medicine man who, as the whole world knew, received the Medal of Peace in person from President Grant), but in order to incite an uprising to keep the military (and military contracts) in Arizona, the Tucson Ring petitioned Congress and other influential people that Nock-eye-dei-klinne was attracting other Indians not for peace, but doing a "ghost dance" (something an Apache medicine man would not do!). The Army records also show that (although the term was not in use at that time) a contract was put out on Nock-eye-dei-klinne's head, that the Army insisted he was a peaceful medicine man and not worth the trouble of going to Cibecue to fetch him (that he would go to Fort Apache, if asked), but the influence of the Tucson ring and Indian Agent (noted for skimming on the contracts) resulted in the local Commander's authority being usurped, and a troop dispatched to arrest Nock-eye-del-klinne. The U.S. Army account of the incident confirms Nock-eye-del-klinne surrendered peacefully and all went well until they decided to set up camp for the night at which time an Army sergeant under contract with the Tucson Ring attempted to decapitate Nock-eye-del-klinne. When Nock-eye-del-klinne's wife went to his rescue, she was shot and killed, as was his son. Nock-eye-del-klinne and the sergeant were put under bonds for the night, but at some time during the night, Nock-eye-del-klinne - after miraculously surviving several attempts at decapitation, mysteriously died and was decapitated. His silver peace medal suddenly appeared in Tucson, and it is still on display at the Arizona Archaeological & Historical Museum in Tucson. Although the U.S. Army made it clear that the only Apache involvement was in attempting to stop the assassination by disarming the Sergeant and others trying to assist the sergeant. Despite the evidence and the support of the local military personnel, the Tucson citizenry demanded Apaches be hung as scapegoats for the crimes of the Tucson Ring, and as former Chairman Ronnie Lupe won't hesitate to tell you, that was the second most dishonorable thing the U.S. Government ever did to Apaches (the first was to offer peace with the ulterior motive of "exterminating" Apaches, as you can see from Secretary Colyer's 1871 Annual Report to the President. Hence the "careful" wording of Captain Hentic's gravestone at Fort Apache Anyone who visits Fort Apache, should be well aware that if any Apache band - no matter how small - attacked Fort Apache, there would be no question at all that Apaches would have won the battle! It would be impossible in those days for anyone to arrive or leave the camp without being ambushed from one of the thousands of protected hiding places which surround the Fort. As historical records show, Apaches would never camp there because the site offered no protection (Apache camps were across the river on the mesa where their ancestors camped 1,000 years ago). I just think the truth deserves to be published.
Nock-eye-dei-klinne did nothing wrong, he was an innocent man preaching a peaceful message and the charge against him was indeed ridiculous. So yes, I agree in large part... Most whites had trouble believing anything Apaches said, or even bothered to listen. Contemporary accounts therefore, have to be read with care; they are usually selfserving and with preconceived notions and ideas. Btw, I think your spelling of the Dreamer's name is the correct one, Nakaidoklinni... And no, I have never seen his photograph...
"Passing the guardhouse on her way to the post trader's store, Mrs. Gilbert C. Smith, wife of Captain Smith, post quartermaster, was motioned to by Dandy Jim from a window. When she faced him there, the scout took from his neck and presented to her a red glass and turquoise string of beads. He said, "You take, me pretty soon hang." A sad final gesture for a condemned man."
Source: The Smoke Signal, No. 36, Fall 1978 - Aftermath of Cibecue; Court Martial of the Apache Scouts, 1881
According to several sources (one of them being "Cibicu Creek Fight in Arizona: 1881" by H.B. Wharfield), Noch-ay-del-klinne (Naikaidoklinni) visited Washington in the 1870s and received a peace medal from president Grant.
I would expect that there is at least one photograph of the president posing with the delegates. Does anyone know more about that?
Any info that may include the names of other participants (even non-Apache) in that delegation may be of help. Thanks a lot.
and another supposedly of him. does anyone have this in better quality?
I posted this image to be Dandy Jim, but I'm not so sure anymore. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I originally found it (it was online). It seems the man is wearing a medal but as I don't have it in higher resolution we don't know it it's a medal given by the president. If so, it would suppose that this man was also a delegate to Washington.
In his booklet Wharfield also includes the above photograph posted by Jeroen (Reply #3 on Jul 27, 2010, 1:39am). According to him (or his source) the man on the right is sergeant Dead Shot. The caption reads as follows: "Sgt Dead Shot seated on right. Courtesy Allan Radbourne, English Westerner's Society".. I highly doubt it is Dead Shot, as Wharfield reports on page 90 that "The scout was a man about forty-five and the other prisoners were young men of some twenty-five years."
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