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Perico
Jul 30, 2012 15:14:26 GMT -5
Post by Mithlo on Jul 30, 2012 15:14:26 GMT -5
ENJADY !!!! This is for you!!!! Brothers....Fun(left) and Perico (right) with George Wratten (center) FORT SAM HOUSTON TEXAS 1886 Attachments:
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Perico
Jul 30, 2012 15:28:47 GMT -5
Post by kayitah on Jul 30, 2012 15:28:47 GMT -5
Wow, what a gem, thanks for posting this, Mithlo. I knew there must be more images from Fort Sam Houston...
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Perico
Jul 30, 2012 15:48:15 GMT -5
Post by penjady on Jul 30, 2012 15:48:15 GMT -5
ENJADY !!!! This is for you!!!! Brothers....Fun(left) and Perico (right) with George Wratten (center) FORT SAM HOUSTON TEXAS 1886 VERY NICE! I had the cropped version but thank you for the whole!
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Perico
Jul 31, 2012 4:31:59 GMT -5
Post by gregor on Jul 31, 2012 4:31:59 GMT -5
Hi guys, I have a little question. Does anybody know the Apache name of Perico? As far as I know is "Perico" a Spanish word, meaning a little bird (a parakeet). Sometimes Perico is also called Porico, which makes no sense in Spanish, but is also no Apache word, or? Sometimes the name Perico/Porico is translated as White Horse (in Spanish: Caballo blanco), but Perico/Porico is not White Horse in Apache, or? Any ideas? Thank you - Gregor
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Perico
Jul 31, 2012 6:21:57 GMT -5
Post by jeroen on Jul 31, 2012 6:21:57 GMT -5
That is a wonderful image Mithlo... never seen it before... thanks! Gregor, that is as far as I got also, I am also looking for his Apache name... And also for the meaning of the names Yanozha and Tsisnah... thank you...
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Perico
Jul 31, 2012 6:27:31 GMT -5
Post by kayitah on Jul 31, 2012 6:27:31 GMT -5
That is a wonderful image Mithlo... never seen it before... thanks! Gregor, that is as far as I got also, I am also looking for his Apache name... And also for the meaning of the names Yanozha and Tsisnah... thank you... I'd also be interested in the meaning of Yahnozha's and Tsisnah's name, as well as Ahnandia's and Adilnadzid's, and Perico's and Chato's Nde name.
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Perico
Aug 4, 2012 10:11:57 GMT -5
Post by kayitah on Aug 4, 2012 10:11:57 GMT -5
I just noticed that there are numbers under the individuals of Mithlo's image of Fun (3), Wratten (2) and Perico (1). Could it be that this is part of a larger photograph?
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Perico
Jan 27, 2014 10:12:59 GMT -5
Post by sasja on Jan 27, 2014 10:12:59 GMT -5
Does anyone have or know of a picture of Perico's wife Hahdunkey? She was supposedly captured in August of 1885 and taken to Fort Bowie along with her children(Angie Debo)? She should be in the group photograph taken of the women at Fort Bowie in 1886 but with out knowing what she look like it is hard to determine where she is in the photo. Also does any one know how many children she had and when born? I only know of two: Harry born 1887 and Eloise born 1892? Any help much appreciated!
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Perico
Jan 27, 2014 16:13:49 GMT -5
Post by kayitah on Jan 27, 2014 16:13:49 GMT -5
Here's a photo of Perico with his wives, Biyaneta and Hahdunkey, probably at Fort Pickens, Pensacola, Florida - The following information is from Alicia Delgadillo's book "From Fort Marion to Fort Sill". Perico and Biyaneta's children: - Dolly (born 1887, date of death unknown; married Lawrence Mithlo in 1908) - Dora (birthdate unknown, died Aug. 21, 1900) - Elmer (birthdate unknown, died March 22, 1901) - Isabelle (born 1895, date of death unknown; married Clarence Enjady, a Mescalero Apache) - Wesley (birthdate unknown, died 1905) *I just noticed a mistake, nothing big; she writes that "Dolly was born in March 1887, five months prior to her half-brother Harry" but also that Harry was "born in July 1887 at Fort Marion". (p. 219 Perico, Dolly / p. 220 Perico Harry) Perico's children by his younger wife, Hahdunkey: - Eloise (born May 10, 1892, date of death unknown; married Kent Kayitah) - Harry (born in July 1887, date of death 1983; wrote a brief autobiography in 1918) *The following confuses me: "Perico had two remembered children by Hahdunkey: Frederick, born at Fort Pickens on March 30, 1888, and Eloise, born in 1892 at Mount Vernon." - see p. 219 / Perico Frederick, born at Fort Pickens?
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Perico
Jan 28, 2014 6:10:42 GMT -5
Post by sasja on Jan 28, 2014 6:10:42 GMT -5
Thank you Kayitah much appreciated, will have to study the picture closely and compare it to the Fort Bowie photo. Is Hadunkey the one at the back? Do we know the date of the photo is it 1886 or 1887? The little child held by Perico looks about two years old and could be the child born at fort Pickins, Biyaneta was taken from Fort Bowie in 1885 at the same time as She Gha Geronimo wife and 3 year old daughter, and became Perico's wife.I may be jumping to conclusions but that would almost imply that the little child in Perico's arms would be Hadunkey's child, either born just before or at Fort Pickins. If so does any one know the name of the child, possibly this Frederick? If the photo is from 1887 the baby might be Biyaneta's daughter Dolly as Kayitah's supplied the birth date as 1887? What do you think?
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Perico
Mar 3, 2021 19:56:54 GMT -5
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Post by Joe smith on Mar 3, 2021 19:56:54 GMT -5
Perico as I am told was a relative of mine. I am trying to find out good resources to use to track the info down and try to learn more about my partial heritage.
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Perico
Mar 4, 2021 4:59:45 GMT -5
Post by naiches2 on Mar 4, 2021 4:59:45 GMT -5
Perico as I am told was a relative of mine. I am trying to find out good resources to use to track the info down and try to learn more about my partial heritage. Perico Leon - Bedonkohe from Geronimo tag-band. Leo, Periko, Jo-chi, Is-chi - ‘White Horse’; Biłįkíkâ·n – ‘His Horse White’ 1854/1847 – Jul 19, 1934 Mescalero Height: 5'8" Warrior: Surrendered with Geronimo. Head of Perico's Village at Ft. Sill Scout: Enlistment 1 – Apr 1, 1884 San Carlos - 30 Sep 1884 Turkey Cr., Company ‘B’ Enlistment 2 - May 4, 1891 Mt. Vernon - May 3, 1896 Ft. Sill Enlistment 3 - Jun 11, 1897 Ft. Sill - Jun 10, 1900 Ft. Sill Wives: Hah-dun-key (1855 – 1897) Bi-ya-neta Tse-dah-dilth-thilth Agness (1850 – Feb 8, 1925) Children: Harry (Jul 1887, Ft. Pickens/May 5, 1898 – Oct 5, 1983) - son of Hah-dun-key (?) Eloise/ Nora (1893 – 1926) - daughter of Hah-dun-key. Wife of Kent Kayihtah Dolly Serena (Mch 5, 1886 – Mch 12, 1976) - daughter of Bi-ya-neta, wife of Mithlo Federick Harry?? (Mch 30, 1888 – ??) Elmer (1891 – Mch 22, 1901) - son of Bi-ya-neta Isabel(1895 – post 1955) - daughter of Bi-ya-neta. Dora(1897 – Aug 21, 1900) - daughter of Bi-ya-neta Wesley (d. Sep 5 1905) - son of Bi-ya-neta Siblings: Nas-tih-deh/Nas-ti-dah (died at San Carlos) - father Fun, Tsisnah, Jozhe - half-brothers and Black Girl Jah -ken-ish-ishn - half-sister by Nas-tih-deh Geronimo Robert (1892 – 1966) - "nephew"
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