I am still wondering about this fellow, obviously a prominent man, and I am still trying to find out what his name was... Then it occurred to me he really looks like the man we talked about earlier in this thread (mouth, eye brows, jaw... and the inevitable hair ornament): What do you guys think?
Sorry coeurrouge, I don't agree, I am pretty sure it is one and the same man... although I can't prove it (yet), I guess that the identification on the Fort Marion image is correct. Until proven otherwise, I think this individual is Lancey (also spelled Len see), a member of Ulzana's raiding party in november/december 1885 and later sent to Carlisle.
Several members of Ulzana's party are known; Ulzana, Fun, Lancey, Yanosha, Kanseah and Cullah and Azariquelch. Sweeney provides the names of the others as: Perico, Mohtsos, Tah ni toe, Atelinietze and Shoie. Cullah (spelled Cathla by sweeney) was shot in the leg early on and remained behind. The one member shot and killed by a White Mounatin Apache was Azariquelch, also known as Zachia.
Earlier this thread we've mentioned Nolgee, a leading Nedni and associate of Geronimo... they were both taken prisoner by Clum in 1877 (if we are to believe the agent)... I just read that Martine was his son... This being the case, I have come to doubt the story that has Geronimo wanting to shoot him and Kayitah as they came up as messengers for Gatewood in august 1886, only to be stopped by Yanozha, Fun and others... Probably yet another made up story to show Geronimo's treacherous character...
Nolgee certainly was an impartant man. I think that the story about Geronimo threatening Kayitah and Martine can very well be true. Not to do Geronimo any injustice, but I think he may have been capable of that. I don't think Geronimo was a bad man, but I have come more and more to the oppinion that many of those courageous and honorable men that surrendered with him are principally inclined to peace, while Geronimo is a man of confrontation. He certainly was a much milder man that Kaetennae, though.
I agree Geronimo was not a bad man (he was no saint either) but a man coping with very hard times as best as he could... I think that, after months of being hunted and chased over hundreds of miles, most members were willing to make peace, and in my opinion among them was Geronimo as well. His words and actions when meeting with Gatewood and the days following until actually meeting with Miles, indicate as much. He was an intelligent man and must have realized that wantonly killing the two envoys would end all options for peace. And Naiche would certainly have disapproved. Btw, Sweeney in his new book largely confirms my opinion that Naiche was far more important a chief than is usually assumed by many historians.