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Post by joycelitwhitedove on Feb 26, 2012 21:34:34 GMT -5
Oh I am so pleased that this posting has helped. I have filed with the Pine Ridge Reservation. I am just waiting for an answer.
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on Sept 4, 2011 7:43:53 GMT -5
Your stories, are so good, So very sad, My Great Great Grandfather Chief Red Cloud was born at Blue Water Creek.
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on Aug 15, 2011 19:09:54 GMT -5
This is Wonderful. I know you have worked very hard on it. Just my little tree has been years in the making. Many Blessings my Dear Friend
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on Jul 24, 2011 16:17:24 GMT -5
Wish we could see closer. Does it say which grandson it is?
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on Jul 11, 2011 0:39:39 GMT -5
I agree, a sad loss.
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on Jul 8, 2011 20:55:51 GMT -5
I will also ask the Great Sprit, Play my flute, standing on Mother Earth.
Many Blessings Walk in Beauity
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on Jul 7, 2011 23:08:14 GMT -5
Yes my friend it is good to be able to look for family.
The Computer has given most of us a new life. Between here, Ancestry. I am finding more books written I can read. Maybe some of the good people can also help me. This is a wonderful place with so much information.
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on Jul 7, 2011 12:58:28 GMT -5
John Alden Clark (John Red Cloud) Born on the Rosebud Reservation 9/22/1894 According to Census reports: 1910 Shows Race: Red (Native American) He was 4years old. Father Jack Red Cloud Mother Nancy Red Cloud
At the age of 15 Allen W Clark and His Wife Ruth C Walker picked him up and took him to Minnesota. Census report 1910 shows Race: White This verifies stories my Grandfather has told me. He was on the Reservation until He was 15 with his mother.
U.S. Indian Census Schedules, 1885-1940 for Nancy Red Cloud, John Red Cloud, is no longer listed. That confirms that he is no longer listed as Native American. Back then they did not have regular adoptions, they just changed there names.
All of the Pow Wow’s we went to he was John Red Cloud. He was a quite, gentle man. The only thing he really wanted was to be Lakota, that wasn’t allowed by the Family or School. He was beaten, told to only speak the white mans tongue.
Grandpa married: Mina Ruth Abbott, June 30 1915, They have 8 children.
Death July 4th 1976
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Lieutenant William Clark Officer at Camp Robinson Events of 1876-1877 Ref. Red Cloud Warrior-Statesman of the Lakota Sioux Robert W. Larson
And My Grandfather, John Alden Clark, aka John Red Cloud
Grandfather stories, one of them was of his Father Lt William Clark: He was assigned to deal with Crazy Horse who would surrender to Red Cloud at the Red Cloud Agency. To show respect one of Crazy Horses best warriors gave Lt. Clark a prized war bonnet. This story is written in book above. It is of the Washington peace trip, Young-Man-Afraid’s, Crazy Horse and several others.
Two accounts of Crazy Horses death, one from Lt. Clark, was on good terms longer than any other officer, reported as a terrible accident.
It was hard for Grandpa, as he had 2 families, Red Cloud and the Clarks, so his stories are from both sides, His white Father, Lt. Clark and, His Mother Nancy Red Cloud. He doesn’t have many from Jack Red Cloud, but what he knew from Chief Red Cloud his Grandfather. There are several pictures of a young boy, they say he is unknown, sometimes I wonder if he isn’t my Grandfather John Red Cloud.
Grandpa’s sister:
Dora B Clark aka Leader Red Cloud. Born: ,May 1891 Pine Ridge SD Parents: Jack and Nancy Red Cloud
Also Adopted by (Taken)
The Clarks
Married Ernest Biggs, 15 March 1919, Fort Thompson Buffalo SD Census report shows both Indian.
Had one Child with Homer Clark Hermania Clark: 1911 , Crow Creek SD, Tribe: Lower Yanktonia Sioux
Death 3 March 1949, Brule County DS Census SD Death 1905-1955
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on Jun 13, 2011 15:58:10 GMT -5
Thank you for the Story. I have similar told by my Grand Father.
Many Blessings
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on May 9, 2011 21:39:03 GMT -5
Thank you so much for all the information here. I have been looking for so long, now maybe I can find the answers.
Many Blessings Joyce
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on May 8, 2011 22:48:33 GMT -5
My Name is Joyce (Little White Dove) Pacifico
John Alden Clark (John Red Cloud) is my Grandfather, born on the Rosebud Reservation 9/22/1894.
I have a family Tree going on Ancestry.com, what I have learned so far;
According to Census reports: 1910 Shows Race: Red (Native American) He was 4years old.
Father Jack Red Cloud Mother Nancy Red Cloud
At the age of 15 Allen W Clark and His Wife Ruth C Walker picked him up and took him to Minnesota. Census report 1910 shows Race: White
This verifies stories my Grandfather has told me. He was on the Reservation until He was 15 with his mother.
All of the Pow Wow’s we went to he was John Red Cloud. He was a quite gentle man. I was told about being the schools and how he was treated.
U.S. Indian Census Schedules, 1885-1940 for Nancy Red Cloud, John Red Cloud, is not longer listed. That confirms that he is no longer listed as Native American.
Back then they did not have regular adoptions, they just changed there names. My name was changed the same way.
His sister was also removed, She retain her Native Heritage.
Any information you may have or help in finding any, would greatly be appreciated
Thank you Joyce
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Post by joycelitwhitedove on May 8, 2011 17:32:28 GMT -5
There is a wonderful little book written by Robert W. Larson, Red Cloud - Warrior-Statesman of the Lakota Sioux.
I this will help him the most.
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