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Post by frank on Jul 31, 2012 16:32:11 GMT -5
Thanks Miller.
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Post by frank on Jul 31, 2012 15:21:12 GMT -5
Awesome thanks dudes.
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Post by frank on Jul 31, 2012 11:51:47 GMT -5
Also any short bio about this Shuntaka Inshnana would be greatly appreciated if you happen to have any? I would use it on my website. I must have been so d**n mixed up when I was creating my Oglala page that I for some reason MADE UP Lone Wolf the Oglala... dammit... Lone Wolf the Kiowa I had listed of course... I dont know what I was thinking... anyway thanks for the help.
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Post by frank on Jul 31, 2012 11:07:42 GMT -5
Any english translated name for the Oglala? Thanks for the help guys.
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Post by frank on Jul 30, 2012 19:59:00 GMT -5
Ok... so the first 2 are not younger versions of the third guy? Who is then in the first 2 pictures? Some Oglala, but who?
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Post by frank on Jul 30, 2012 18:31:50 GMT -5
Hey, Whatta hell is this... are all these 3 guys in these pictures the same Lone wolf? At least 2 first of them have exact same clothes so they are the same guy. But is the last picture, the oldest man, the same Lone Wolf as in 2 first ones? ...and can someone explain why the first picture has a text saying the indian in the picture is Oglala? Anyone ever heard of Lone Wolf the Oglala? Shouldnt Lone Wolf be Kiowa? I got all mixed up with this...
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Post by frank on Jul 21, 2012 2:53:22 GMT -5
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Post by frank on Jul 20, 2012 14:00:16 GMT -5
Thanks Gregor. If its ok Ill use your reference on my website.
Here is the latest mr. Wessels emailed to me... I think Ill forward this more in here and then stop.
Here goes:
"Sirs, Thank you for help and information. I would like to say that I feel to much has be made of trying to identify individuals by there photo names. The photographers were not historians and named there photos so they would sell. Take the photos Chak-ur-t-kee and Crazy in the Lodge witch I believe to be the same person. "CHIEF" Chak-ur-t-kee is a staged photo that was used to make 'money " A photo made to sell and B H Gurnsey photographer did not take any other "pawnee " Photos thus its most likely a Photo name and not the person in the photo. In the photo Crazy in the Lodge photographer Morrow most likely named the photo after what Touch the Clouds said at Crazy Horse's death , as Touch the Clouds pulled the blanket over Crazy Horses face he said "that is the lodge of Crazy Horse". If your looking for a lost horse you follow its tracks and you well find it standing in them. These old Photos are like tracks, do a intense digital study and you may just find Crazy Horse in this case sitting in his and under arrest. Thanks William H Wessels"
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Post by frank on Jul 11, 2012 17:01:22 GMT -5
Thanks Grahamew. Good to hear from you after so long time. I've been busy with work and life. Got 1 year old daughter now and time seems to fly. I will be checking this board every once in a while though and hopefully I can someday return to build my own website too. Now I update it just a bit by bit once a month if even that.
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Post by frank on Jul 11, 2012 10:48:41 GMT -5
Thanks Dietmar. Unfortunately my great friend Ukki past away year ago in august. Ukki had many illnesses and he even got one really tough hospital bacteria on his leg. In the end there was nothing we could do anymore so I had to let him go. It was a HUGE lost and I would have rather put down some random human than him but there was no choice... anyway, life goes on and Ukki gave me lots of good memories. Here is a pic of Ukki and me when he was still alive and kicking: Now we have a new dog. She is only 1/15 of Ukki's size and still quite young, only 11 months old. But she is much healthier. Her name is Kola (in Lakota way of course). Here is a pic of her:
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Post by frank on Jul 10, 2012 11:37:51 GMT -5
Hey, I got problem to understand what he is saying also... and/or why he is emailing this stuff to me and dont post them him self... the thing is that it is impossible for me to answer to his emails. They just bounce right back saying there is no such address. Anyway, the text is bit jiddish but I thought the message is interesting in its own Rasputinish manner so I forwarded the emails in here .
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Post by frank on Jul 9, 2012 20:27:01 GMT -5
I got this email now from the same guy. Here it is copy/pasted:
Sirs, One of the reasons Ive suggest a digital study is Photos cant make a mistake, lie or have a agenda but give a moment in time that my give important clues. I think the maine focus should be on the back drop in Crazy In the Lodge by digital comparing its back drop to other back drops of all known photos at Fort Roberson and participatory native scouts at camp Sheridan during this time. Studying its canvas back drop for things like cuts ,stains, type of weave Est. you may then be able date the photo Crazy in the Lodge to a very small window "months". You then must ask could there be more than one person in those few month's that had the name Crazy "S J Morrow" wore those type of cloths "Mari Sandoz" called him his head warrior "Red Cloud" had a unique scar and power burns to face "numerous" and who was arrested during those few months that would be important enough to have a "un-staged photo" taken more like a mug shot with hand cuffs and tied with rope! Touch the Clouds who arrested Crazy Horse and held him in custody the night before his death was familiar with the photographer James H Hamilton camp Sheridan as he had is photo taken by him Fall of 1877 and who's back drop is like Crazy in the Lodge. If the Nebraska historical society has no interest in a digital study would you pass my corresponds on to PBS they may be interest. A reply would be appreciated. Sincerely William H Wessels 07/09/2012
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Post by frank on Jun 27, 2012 1:34:58 GMT -5
Hey ho Dietmar! Been real busy with work and life (daughter just turned 1 year old). But I'm hanging here on the background still . For some reason I am not able to answer or send any emails to that wessels@netzero.com address. My email provider just keeps on telling me "couldn't contact the address or something like that...). So I wasn't even able to answer back at William. Maybe some of you could email him and ask for the article? Anyway take care everyone and keep up with the good work!!
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Post by frank on Jun 26, 2012 13:15:06 GMT -5
Hey, (long time no see) As you have propably noticed I have sent people with their questions to this board every once in a while... (I hope that's been ok, since I've just thought that if someone in here can't answer to them then no one can ). Now I go this email from one William Wessels and it was originally send to tom.mooney@nebraska.gov William asked if I could post the content of the email on this board so here it is. I think you might find this interesting... The whole email (copy/paste): From: "wessels@netzero.com" <wessels@netzero.com> To: tom.mooney@nebraska.gov, tom.buecker@nebraska.gov Subject: DIGITAL STUDY Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:58:29 GMT Dear Sirs, I would like to suggest to the Nebraska state historical society that they use the military digital facial recognition program to establish in there pamphlet "Greasy Grass" may 1998 vol 14 If Fig. 2 "little Bat" 1870 and Fig. 3 "Crazy in the lodge" 1877 and Fig. 4 "Chak-ur-T-kee" REVERSED to match the others Fig's tintypes or indeed one and the same person. If proven this would give you 3 different photos "taken in Nebraska" , places, times and photographers all calming this same person to be Crazy Horse. This should give you the Proof needed that there is a photo of Crazy horse and put a face to this great warrior.. I would also like to suggest that they digitally examin S J Morrow's " Crazy in the Lodge" On how is hands were position to cover up hand cuffs and a rope there also appears to be writing under the #132 that may tell who the real photographer is.. Based on my limited technically and study I find they are indeed one in the same person and that the "Crazy in the lodge" photo was taken at camp Sherman on the 4 or 5 of Sept 1877 and probably by James H Hamililton. I can not find one thing in the photo " Crazy in the Lodge" from clothing, facial scars, back drop est. Plus the fact that he was hand cuff and tied for a PHOTO!!! that this is not the feared warrior Crazy Horse. Please let me know what you find out. William H Wessels 6/26/12
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Post by frank on Sept 13, 2010 7:05:21 GMT -5
Excellent. Thanks Jeroen. So ok, I have wrong pic on my website. But do you knwo anything about the guy in the first pic? Thanks.
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