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Post by rodthomas on Feb 7, 2011 19:56:02 GMT -5
Louie, thanks...the only "auto-biography" and even "biography" of authenticity is one recorded by him in the 1920s or thereabouts. I won't know for sure until the SHSND materials arrive and that could still yet be awhile. In any case, I'll listen for such indications on the SHSND CD where his story is recorded.
"No Two Horns" ---"Without Both Horns" Makes perfect sense to me.
Hope all is well and look forward to hearing what is in your notes...
Thanks...and warm regards, Rod...
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Post by rodthomas on Feb 5, 2011 12:54:50 GMT -5
Good morning everyone...hope your weather is moderating towards spring...
One of my research projects at the moment points me in the direction of He Nupa Wanica (No Two Horns) later known as Joseph No Two Horns. Most of his artwork, horse memorial sticks, shields, and pictographs are at the State Historical Society of North Dakota and Mark Halvorson is sending requested images and documents. While I wait for that material to show I'd like to know if anyone in the group has done independent research on No Two Horns - both his life and his art. I have the Wooley & Horse Capture article from the Summer 1993 American Indian Art Magazine and the CD from the SHSND.
Any help is appreciated as always.
Hope all is well and please have a great day...
Regards, Rod Thomas...
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Post by rodthomas on Aug 30, 2010 10:08:58 GMT -5
What is on the website now does not include the items traded or sold. The Red Hawk drawing about the LBH oddly enough WAS on the website until taken off after the staff realized they no longer had the actual image. The MPM store still has the set of some thirty drawings for sale in which six, as near as I can tell, are no longer at the MPM. Apparently the original acquisition photographs (b/w only!) are not located or at least located a few years back when I was researching the provenance.
As for the One Scalp drawing at the Heard, I am awaiting a low resolution copy for further research.
Other than the one drawing I think is of the LBH, I've not done any research on the others. It's on my list of research while I do keep a watch for the other drawings.
Regards, Rod...
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Post by rodthomas on Aug 27, 2010 13:53:41 GMT -5
Now that Rubbing Out Long Hair is in print folks have had an opportunity to see all the White Swan about the Little Big Horn battle in 1876 and to read all our research findings about his life and these events. Several have asked about whether we were continuing research about his life and yes, we are. So much so that we discussed with several people the potential to do a biography about him. It is in the works. More on this as we progress.
Some points that we make in Rubbing Out Long Hair: 1. the killing of the soldier more than likely IS NOT a Little Big Horn battle event. White Swan is dressed differently and carries a leader bundle. He was not the leader at the Little Big Horn and he does not show himself so adorned in any of the LBH vignettes. There are two paintings of just LBH events and this is not in either of them. Miller's informant was two years old at the time of the battle so this information is suspect. Additionally, Miller's narrative contains some factual errors and is greatly embellished and these also make the story suspect. No soldier testimony mentions such an event. That White Swan engaged a soldier (in some cases a sergeant, a corporal, or a private) is not doubted - when and where are unknown. We have some leads and continue to verify but for now - this did not happen at the LBH. 2. Rebecca Nelson's thesis was for her MA (not PhD) at Arizona State University. I've got a copy and contains several interesting points. We use them in Rubbing Out Long Hair. 3. We are researching some information we were given last June at LBH College about White Swan's participation in the Nez Perce campaign in 1877. What we have so far concluded is that he DID participate in that campaign but not as a scout. More to follow. Our research on this was first for the book, then the bio, then in putting together our presentation on Nez Perce art of the 1877 campaign. This presentation will be given this September in Great Falls, Montana to the Order of the Indian Wars (www.indianwars.com). Jerome Greene is also on the program so should be a great afternoon! 4. The telescope vignette IS about the Crows Nest for the LBH series of events. It is in the two paintings that contain ONLY LBH events. We've got several points of proof in the book and I just realized how long this post is going. My apologies.
In ending, I'd appreciate any and all help with information about White Swan to include photographs, references, etc. My email is rod.thomas@susney.com and please feel free to contact me.
Please have a great day!
Regards, Rod Thomas...
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Post by rodthomas on Aug 27, 2010 12:21:26 GMT -5
Carlo, this is a wonderful ledger collection although the book itself was broken up a few decades ago and individual pages were either traded to other museums for artifacts to enhance MPM collections or sold to raise funds (both fairly common practices by the way). I found this out while researching Rubbing Out Long Hair and was tracking down the Red Hawk drawing about the death of a Crow scout and a Lakota warrior, Black White Man. That drawing was traded to a museum in the east and was then sold by that museum. It was offered on auction a few years back and the whereabouts is not known.
A few weeks ago I was in Phoenix on business and went to the Heard Museum to see the White Swan muslin painting (also in my book) and their colleciton of ledger or pictograph art. In that collection was a drawing by "One Scalp" and guess where it came from? Yep...the Red Hawk ledger. There is only one publication about the ledger and it is from the MPM.
We've potentially located a few others from the Red Hawk ledger and our research continues to verify. Let me know if you need anything else about this collection although this is about it.
Please have a great day...
Regards, Rod Thomas...
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Post by rodthomas on Oct 14, 2008 12:14:03 GMT -5
Good morning all...very glad to see this site and hope to learn lots. Please have a great day!
Regards, Rod Thomas...
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