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Post by peter on Jun 4, 2018 8:10:05 GMT -5
Do we know what year it was taken or approximately? Thank you Peter
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Post by peter on Jun 4, 2018 8:09:14 GMT -5
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Post by peter on May 10, 2018 15:43:40 GMT -5
Interestingly, as early as 1887, at least one newspaper correspondent named Crazy Horse as leader of the decoys, courtesy of a book, Red Shirt, Chief of the Sioux Nation... codyarchive.org/texts/wfc.nsp11386.htmlThis article is interesting, but historically incorrect. It is strange on how one article on any newspaper could be believed in a blink of an eye and change the history completely.
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Post by peter on May 10, 2018 13:37:37 GMT -5
Thank you Kingley for your clarification :"Rocky Bear, an old Indian in Pine Ridge Reservation, says that Red Cloud, Young-man-afraid-of-his horses, Red Dog, and Crazy Horse were the principal leaders in this massacre. Red Cloud sent Crazy Horse with eight Indians to the fort to try and draw the soldiers out, they circled around the Fort at the same time firing upon it. This ruse was successful, and as soon as the little command under Capt. Fetterman was seen leaving the Fort, the Indians retreated, at the same time pretending that their horses were lame and tired.” [Cleophas C. O’Hara, “Red Cloud and Rapid City,” The Pahasapapa Quarterly 4 (April, 1915), p. 18; “The Great Chief Red Cloud.” The Indian School Journal 10 (February, 1910), p. 42; Rapid City Journal, July 7, 1907]. Read more: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/1938/decoy-party-fetterman-fight#ixzz5F7hshQszWe also know, according to the military witnesses that Fetterman was sent to relief the wood train and not chasing Indians that were circling around the Fort firing upon it. There is no record of that. Fort Phil Kearny, during its short life was never attacked directly or/and circled around while being fired upon. In fact, the pickets at Pilot Hill, that day, with wigwagging signals reported the wood train being under attack on Sullivant Hills on the way to the pinery. It was then that Carrington made up his mind to send first Captain Powell out to relief the party, then upon Fetterman protest, sent Fetterman himself to the rescue. Fetterman went out to relief the wood train and not after the Indians that were circling and shooting at the fort because it never happened. At the time Fetterman went out, the only Indians that could be seen from the Fort, were the two Indians that appeared on the slope across Big Piney who were watching the events sitting down. The decoy party was completely out of site of Carrington and the Fort. I would take Rocky Bear story with a little grain of salt. Military records do not support his statement. This does not mean that Crazy Horse was not part of the decoy.
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Post by peter on Mar 31, 2018 9:34:11 GMT -5
After all explenation that Historian gift about traslation of the name Thasunke Khokiphapi this question is look lake strange Attachments:
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Post by peter on Mar 13, 2018 15:48:55 GMT -5
Dear Ladonna, I'm a new member. I admire you for who you are and for what you do and for what you are fighting for. I wished I had had a little bit more time to get acquainted with you. We will miss your expertise. Remember, your fight is our fight also. Regards Peter
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Post by peter on Mar 11, 2018 21:09:14 GMT -5
Thanks Kingsley, I was referring to the regular sheep not to the mountain sheep. Sorry for the miss understanding. I took Gregor explanation for granted. My question remains the same. Could it be or it is Sitting Bulls war shirt? Your expertise is really appreciate. What do you know or what you think? Thank you
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Post by peter on Mar 10, 2018 8:49:22 GMT -5
Thank you, I also suspected that a sheepskin war shirt was not a Lakota trademark.
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Post by peter on Mar 8, 2018 10:04:48 GMT -5
Thank Dietmar for posting it. Hope someone can tell whether is the true war shirt of Sitting Bull. I'm puzzled
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Post by peter on Nov 24, 2017 9:15:04 GMT -5
This one? Two Strike and Family # 160 on Hamilton Catalogue
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Post by peter on Nov 22, 2017 18:50:53 GMT -5
mmmh, just a thought... he´s older and a bit leaner in the second photo, of course...Eyes puffed from eye-lashes to the eyes-brown. The one in the middle eys caved in from Eyes lashes to eyes brown. Not the same person
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Post by peter on Nov 7, 2017 14:14:36 GMT -5
Yes, it is American Horse Lodge. In this pictures there is American Horse. The little girl in front of him is the same little girl with the hat in the middle of the picture you posted. Same breastplate same face. The baby on American Horse wife lap is the same little baby on the lap of her mother, right near American Horse standing. I wonder who is the Indian in the middle, a vague resemblance of Little Big Man. This is Hamilton # 154 " Family Group at Red Cloud"
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Post by peter on Nov 6, 2017 14:55:38 GMT -5
Thanks, Ephriam, great stuff as always. Did you notice young Spotted Tail breastplate? It seems to me, it is the same breastplate he wore at the delegation to Washington.
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Post by peter on Oct 28, 2017 11:55:15 GMT -5
I have with me the original photo number 136.
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Post by peter on Oct 28, 2017 11:03:02 GMT -5
I could not agree with you more. I was just wondering if Mitchell and Hamilton ever met at Red Cloud. The fact that they had more cameras it showed it on the photographs they took. This picture was not taken by a camera that was taking tintypes and so was the camera that Hamilton is using at the moment. We also know that he took tintypes photo as well. So I wonder, perhaps the camera that was able to take tintype was inside the studio which it was better to take inside pictures. It could have been his son taking that picture, Mitchell or perhaps two more persons who had camera at camp Robinson also.
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