Sorry, but I'm more confused than ever. Does this mean that these drawings can be published without asking permission to the Milwaukee public museum? So, you still have the set you bought as teenagers? Does your set have the same drawings of the Milwaukee museum? The drawings you have posted in this discussion are yours or belong to the museum? Sorry for the confusion I'm creating.
Peter--(BTW, is this Peter G??) There is only one portfolio set from MPM as far as I know. The portfolio that the Museum sold does NOT include all of the pages of the original ledger. There are far more in the ledger than in the portfolio.
And I have not posted any of the portfolio drawings. If I could figure out how to post images to this site I would post a few of the original pages so that folks could see what they look like.
No Rod it is a different Peter. Thank you again. When you talk about the museum, are you referring to the Milwaukee Museum? If I read you correctly, are saying that portfolio sold by the museum is different from the ledger and the museum does not own those pictures anymore since it sold them? Can you post some old drawings from the portofolio? Is there any drawing of Crazy Horse? and the photo with Red Hawk killing the Crow who killed hois friend that you posted is not property of the museum? Thank you
First our thanks to almont for the clarification on the reproductions sold at one time by the Milwaukee museum and the original ledger pages. The drawing I found in Phoenix was in fact NOT an original drawing but one of the reproductions. The difference is the reproductions were printed on unlined paper.
Suggest you contact the museum directly as to ownership, copyright, use, reproduction, etc.
I am on a research trip at the moment and will compare the copies for sale versus the images already posted on this thread when done. I think most if not all of them are posted but can't say for sure.
I wanted to share a few more details about the Red Hawk ledger book that might be of interest. According to the museum's online description, the ledger book was purchased in 1897 from H. H. Hayssen of Chuncula, Alaska. The book was reportedly "captured" by Captain R. Miller from Red Hawk at Wounded Knee Creek on January 8, 1891.
Henry H. Hayssen (1848-1913) had immigrated to the U.S. as a child with his family, initially settling in Wisconsin. As an adult, he operated a general store and became a very active collector of Indian artifacts, particularly projectile points. He was described in one publication as an "avid collector and amateur archaeologist." In 1896, the board of the Milwaukee Public Museum voted to purchase Hayssen's "collection of Archaeology, Ethnology and Anthropology," presumably including this ledger book. We should point out that Hayssen had moved to Chunchula, Alabama [not Alaska] about 1896 or 1897 where he died in 1913.
"Captain R. Miller" was one of the notorious characters of the Ghost Dance troubles. A seasonal cowboy, hunter, and homesteader in South Dakota, Riley Miller was part of the Home Guard that caused so much trouble in 1890-91. He later adopted the title "captain" to give some sense of respectability to his activities. Miller had served in the Civil War, was a survivor of the Confederate POW camp at Andersonville, and now worked seasonally for one of the large ranches near the Pine Ridge Reservation. Renee Flood, in her wonderfully researched book Lost Bird of Wounded Knee, describes how members of the Home Guard including Miller ambushed a group of Lakota near the Stronghold on or about December 14, 1890, killing some number. I have not been able to figure out yet who this Lakota group was. One witness noted that Miller and another companion brought back mules to pack out a large collection of artifacts, including clothing, etc. that had been left behind by these fleeing Lakota and Miller later spent several years traveling these items around as part of his "dime museum" trying to earn money. Here is a photograph of Miller and some of these captured items, probably taken about 1891 or 1892. (Click here for link). I am guessing that during one of Miller's tours with his Indian collection, he passed through Wisconsin and Hayssen was able to purchase the ledger book.
The date on the ledger, Jan. 8, 1891, does not match the timing of the "Home Guard Ambush" of Dec. 14, 1890. I am still researching to determine if Miller and others may have been involved in another incident a month later.
During the Ghost Dance period, Red Hawk Sr. and his son, Red Hawk Jr. were living along Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Reservation. Several of the individuals mentioned in the ledger book -- Holy Standing Buffalo, Crazy Thunder and Runs Against -- were members of the Wakan Band, a sub group of the Oyuhpe Oglala who settled on Wounded Knee Creek near where it empties into the White River, a community later known as Rockyford. This suggests that the artist was probably the son, better known later as Austin Red Hawk (c1856-1928), who is listed as a member of the Wakan band in the 1890 census for Pine Ridge. He served as an Indian scout during the Ghost Dance troubles and later as a reservation policeman. Did Red Hawk give the ledger to Miller or did the cowboy militia raid Indian cabins along Wounded Knee creek during which he "captured" the ledger book? Hopefully more research will help us determine where it was found.
Hope this helps to provide some additional context for this ledger book.
Thanks, Ephriam. The whole 'Home Guard' business seems to be largely neglected in conventional histories of the events at Wounded Knee. I've read a figure of upward of 70 Indians killed in his 'ambush'. You have to think about the effect of this on the Indians who surrendered at Wounded Knee. I wonder if Miller was any relation to Henry Miller, the government herder allegedly killed by Young Skunk - or, indeed to Wyoming sheriff William Miller of Lightning Creek notoriety.
Grahame, it's not the same as the original; at least not the one I have on file from the original ledger. That has different lines (there is a distinctly blue line at the level of the individuals' knees), and it does not have a page number at the bottom right (although that may be due to the cropping of the photo by the museum.) Is it for sale at Skinner now?
Maybe someone will be able to grab a larger picture of this and be kind enough to post it.
While I'm at it, here's another reproduction: Riding Through a Shower of Bullets. The name at the top is Cetan Luta - Red Hawk, though he depicts himself in different dress to what he usually wears. The original of this is in the MPM.:
Here are a couple of originals found on the web, slightly larger than they are on the MPM site:
Quick Thunder - Steals Two Ponies
Wounded Pony. Spears the Crow. Tasunke Witko
Going back to the one from Skinner that I posted above:
Here's the original:
The one above isn't one of Hunt's copies for sale so is it a fake? The text at the top of the original says 'Holy Standing Buffalo.'
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I'm really surprised at the long breast plates which puts to bed most theories, including that of historian Donovin Spraugue, that in 1876-77 the Lakota breast plates were short with only 10 to 25 rows. Cetan Luta lived in those times and fought during the battle of the little Big Horn along side Crazy Horse who is also carrying a long breast plate. Thank you Carlo for sharing these beautiful images.