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Post by grahamew on Dec 1, 2019 17:47:54 GMT -5
Hi Californian, as far as I know was Cross the photographer and Bailey, Dix and Mead only marketed a 24 piece series of Cross photographs. Please see also here: chronicles.dickinson.edu/studentwork/indian/8_marketing.htmThese Fort Randall pics are the only photographs which were sold by Bailey, Dix and Mead. I hope my memory serves me well, have to look up my archive. Greetings from Germany, gregor Have to admit, I thought the same.
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Post by grahamew on Dec 2, 2019 2:07:39 GMT -5
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Post by gregor on Dec 2, 2019 9:28:36 GMT -5
The Bailey, Dix, and Mead photos - a 24's series found in the South Dakota Historical Society - have a somewhat intricate history. Most historians agree that the photographer was William R. Cross [1839-1907]. Some of these photos were marketed by Cross, but also by Stanley J. Morrow. Cross was a photographer from Niobrara, Nebraska, whose photographs were very popular. It is believed that Cross sold photo rights to Bailey, Dix and Mead because he did not want to take care of marketing in the Eastern States.
Joshua Bailey, Dr. George Dix and Mead seem to have been a temporary trading company. It was only founded to distribute the 24 SB photos. Bailey, Dix and Mead lived in the neighborhood of Fort Randall and saw an opportunity to earn money. Dix was a dentist from Niobrara, Bailey is said to have been a dealer on the Yankton Agency. Nothing is known about Mead. Apart from this series, it is not known that Bailey, Dix and Mead marketed any other photos.
Almost all of the Bailey, Dix and Mead series are stereographs, three are portraits: Sitting Bull (No.1 in the catalog), Steps (No.3), and One Bull (No.7).
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Post by Californian on Dec 4, 2019 21:49:10 GMT -5
hi Gregor and Grahame thank you both very kindly, these are great insights and admittedly did not know the details about the connection between W.R. Cross and Bailey, Dix and Mead. Some time ago (long time ago) I tried to research Bailey, Dix and Mead and had come up with almost nothing at the time, thus am more so grateful to learn about it. I have been corresponding with Markus Linder in Germany about this particular image. He shares your (Gregor's) opinion that the male figure with the blanket drawn over the head was probably not Sitting Bull, perhaps another member of his family. Looking at the image a bit closer, I see a vague huddled figure seated to the left of the standing person and it seems to me somewhere on this forum someone thought - based on another similar image, that that person could be Sitting Bull's mother. The standing female, with the little bit that is visible, seems to vaguely resemble SB's daughter Her Many Horses - just a thought of course. If that presumption was true, then perhaps the standing male might possibly be the latter's husband, Thomas Fly of whom I am not aware to have ever seen a picture. Again, these are just musings on my part. Thank you both again.
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Post by Californian on Dec 4, 2019 21:56:40 GMT -5
hi Gregor, great article and very useful. Thanks for sharing. Hi Californian, as far as I know was Cross the photographer and Bailey, Dix and Mead only marketed a 24 piece series of Cross photographs. Please see also here: chronicles.dickinson.edu/studentwork/indian/8_marketing.htmThese Fort Randall pics are the only photographs which were sold by Bailey, Dix and Mead. I hope my memory serves me well, have to look up my archive. Greetings from Germany, gregor
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Post by Californian on Dec 4, 2019 21:57:33 GMT -5
thanks Grahame, appreciate it, this is very useful.
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Post by giledbro1 on Dec 25, 2019 2:18:39 GMT -5
Regarding Sitting Bull images, and particularly in Canada, does anyone have info on the ill fated Terry Commission to SB, including who actually participated and the sketches that were drawn by the newspapers in attendance?
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Post by grahamew on Apr 14, 2020 4:25:02 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 14, 2020 5:22:02 GMT -5
Thanks. Always a joy to read Mark Diedrich´s books and essays.
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 14, 2020 8:23:52 GMT -5
Btw, we had previous discussions when, where and by whom the family photos of Sitting Bull were taken. According to Mark Diedrich´s article, Alvaren Allen arranged those photos to be taken during Sitting Bull´s second visit to St. Paul in September 1884.
Sorry, I have mis-read the article. Alvaren Allen ordered the photos to be shown around to reporters in St. Paul, but they were taken earlier.
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Post by clarence on Nov 20, 2023 6:33:17 GMT -5
About Mar 28, 2019 at 12:13am post, attentively staring at the last blurred blown up figure, I think I recognize the Lower Yanktonai chief Mad Bear rather than Long Feather.
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Post by giledbro1 on Nov 26, 2023 15:22:40 GMT -5
If I might, is there one or more 'verified' pics, or sketches, of Jumping Bull, aka Little Assiniboine ? Thanks for any assistance, Ed B.
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