Post by brock on Nov 14, 2009 17:56:11 GMT -5
Peter Talks was the son of Talks About Him and Nancy Otter Woman.
Talks About Him was the son of Lone Horn and Stiff Leg. He had two full sisters, Her Iron Cane and Plenty Clothes. Lone Horn was the son of Black Buffalo and White Cow also known as Iron Cane. Lone Horn had seven wives but only three had children. Talks About Him had half siblings from Lone Horn and Stands On Ground. They were a daughter named Two White Cow also know as Ida Crow and three sons named Touch The Cloud, Standing Elk who later got the first name Matthew, and Frog also known as Roaming Nose but usually spelled Roman Nose as though the Lakota named their children after the Romans (lol). Talks About Him had one additional half sister named Four Horses from Lone Horn and Wind. Stands On Ground, Wind, and Stiff Leg were sisters (in that birth order) and the daughter of the head man Red Leaf.
Nancy Otter Woman was the daughter of the Cheyenne Head man Dull Knife. Dull Knife had two daughters named Otter Woman. Nancy was the younger of the two.
Peter Talks married Mary Traversie Dupris.
Mary Traversie Dupris was the granddaughter of the Mdewakan War Eagle and Iron Woman.
Peter Talks had a daughter named Amy who married Edward Clown.
They had four children. Blaine Sr, Edwina, Beverly, and Delmar. When Blaine Sr married Beverly In the Woods both were in the process of bringing newborns into the world from other partners. They elected to raise Beverly's daughter, Charlene. Blaine Sr's son Floyd was raised by Edward and Amy as their own son. They never told Floyd he wasn't their biological son but Floyd found out when he was ten from friends. Neither broached the subject while Edward and Amy were alive.
Peter Talks had many stories he liked to tell the great grandchildren and the grandchildren. Many times he would start to tell them in Cheyenne and his daughter Amy would get cross with him and tell him not to use that language around her grandkids. It was suspicioned that he used Cheyenne just to get a rise out of his daughter. The great grandkids thought it was fun when he did that.
In 1966 Peter Talks got ill. He had pretty much lost his senses. He was nearly blind, had no sense of smell, and was hard of hearing. He was living with his granddaughter Beverly and her husband Melvin Bagola. One afternoon the Bagolas took off and Peter Talks was left alone. He got hungry. There was a metal pot soaking with a bit of bleach in it on the sink to get a stain out. He thought it was soup. So he drank it. It made him very ill.
His daughter Amy went to stay with him in leaving her husband Edward and son Floyd alone at their cabin in the country around Labor Day. During the Labor Day fair Edward took eleven year old Floyd to the fair. While they were at the fair his daughter Edwina dropped by the cabin and everything was gone. Only the gas bottled stove and refrigerator remained and the refrigerator was out in the yard indicating the thief tried to take that too but it was probably to big and heavy. They stole the family cedar chest with Crazy Horse's bundles and family heirlooms.
In that chest was:
1) A Sharp's breech loading rifle with an octagon barrel given to Crazy Horse by Bear With Horns at the battle of the Little Bighorn.
2) Crazy Horse's pipe which had stem about 2 1/2 feet long and a catlinite bowl.
3) Fights The Thunder's all red catlinite pipe.
4) A pipe made by a visiting student from the east coast with a squirrel carved at the bowl. It was sent to Edward at Christmas time. The student had visited and wanted to know the story of the White Buffalo Calf Pipe Woman. So Edward told him the story. Half way through Edward stopped and said he could tell no more. The student was disappointed. Edward said he liked the student's flannel shirt. The student gave it to him and Edward completed the story. He saw Crazy Horse's pipe so he went home and carved a council pipe like what he'd seen in appreciation of Edward.
5) A buffalo leather box with three bowls in it. Two cottonwood bowls owned by Crazy Horse and another bowl made from the knot of a cottonwood with a notch so it could be hung from the belt owned by Puts On Shoes. They had this because Puts On Shoes died with no family.
6) Crazy Horse's cherrywood fork and spoon. The fork was a 'Y' that was used to stab meat and the spoon for soup.
7) A beaded blanket and bridle given by the mother's side to Waglula to honor Crazy Horse about ten years after Crazy Horse's death. I have a polaroid picture of it but it is badly cracked up from the family being used for Part Four of the documentaries. It is of a young woman riding a horse in a parade in the early sixties with the blanket and bridle in use.
8) A drawing of Crazy Horse made by a young man of the Mormon faith while on a mission on the rez in I believe 1932. He drew it on a description supplied by Iron Cedar. It is this picture that surfaced years later at the Little Bighorn Battlefield to put in the Indian Memorial media guide that verified suspicions of who took the chest.
9) There were also many family photos. The ones of the Peter Talks family turned up about four years later in Faith at Harry Cross's Second Hand Store and Meat Processing which later became Varland's Varieties and now is empty in Faith, SD. Amy was with her son Floyd at the store and told him on the way back that she had seen a picture of herself when she was a baby sitting on a star blanket and Peter Talks with a six shooter and another of Peter Talks on horseback. Since the thief was not part of Amy's family the pictures were sold. Amy said nothing and never visited Faith again as long she lived. Floyd was upset she never said anything.
Right after the robbery they went to a medicine man in Red Scaffold to find out who did it. Amy's niece Mona Red Horse asked the question if it was a relative. The medicine man said yes. Amy said she didn't want to know anything more.
An FBI file is still open on the theft because a stolen operating firearm was involved.
Luckily Crazy Horse's sacred medicine bundles had been buried in 1963 by Ed Clown outside his cabin bedroom window so he could see the burial site from the window. There were four. Three parfleche bags and one pouch to be worn around the neck with a crystal rock in it.
I will email Dietmar with a picture of Peter Talks and Amy Traversie Dupris Talks and the beaded blanket with the family's beadwork markings.
Talks About Him was the son of Lone Horn and Stiff Leg. He had two full sisters, Her Iron Cane and Plenty Clothes. Lone Horn was the son of Black Buffalo and White Cow also known as Iron Cane. Lone Horn had seven wives but only three had children. Talks About Him had half siblings from Lone Horn and Stands On Ground. They were a daughter named Two White Cow also know as Ida Crow and three sons named Touch The Cloud, Standing Elk who later got the first name Matthew, and Frog also known as Roaming Nose but usually spelled Roman Nose as though the Lakota named their children after the Romans (lol). Talks About Him had one additional half sister named Four Horses from Lone Horn and Wind. Stands On Ground, Wind, and Stiff Leg were sisters (in that birth order) and the daughter of the head man Red Leaf.
Nancy Otter Woman was the daughter of the Cheyenne Head man Dull Knife. Dull Knife had two daughters named Otter Woman. Nancy was the younger of the two.
Peter Talks married Mary Traversie Dupris.
Mary Traversie Dupris was the granddaughter of the Mdewakan War Eagle and Iron Woman.
Peter Talks had a daughter named Amy who married Edward Clown.
They had four children. Blaine Sr, Edwina, Beverly, and Delmar. When Blaine Sr married Beverly In the Woods both were in the process of bringing newborns into the world from other partners. They elected to raise Beverly's daughter, Charlene. Blaine Sr's son Floyd was raised by Edward and Amy as their own son. They never told Floyd he wasn't their biological son but Floyd found out when he was ten from friends. Neither broached the subject while Edward and Amy were alive.
Peter Talks had many stories he liked to tell the great grandchildren and the grandchildren. Many times he would start to tell them in Cheyenne and his daughter Amy would get cross with him and tell him not to use that language around her grandkids. It was suspicioned that he used Cheyenne just to get a rise out of his daughter. The great grandkids thought it was fun when he did that.
In 1966 Peter Talks got ill. He had pretty much lost his senses. He was nearly blind, had no sense of smell, and was hard of hearing. He was living with his granddaughter Beverly and her husband Melvin Bagola. One afternoon the Bagolas took off and Peter Talks was left alone. He got hungry. There was a metal pot soaking with a bit of bleach in it on the sink to get a stain out. He thought it was soup. So he drank it. It made him very ill.
His daughter Amy went to stay with him in leaving her husband Edward and son Floyd alone at their cabin in the country around Labor Day. During the Labor Day fair Edward took eleven year old Floyd to the fair. While they were at the fair his daughter Edwina dropped by the cabin and everything was gone. Only the gas bottled stove and refrigerator remained and the refrigerator was out in the yard indicating the thief tried to take that too but it was probably to big and heavy. They stole the family cedar chest with Crazy Horse's bundles and family heirlooms.
In that chest was:
1) A Sharp's breech loading rifle with an octagon barrel given to Crazy Horse by Bear With Horns at the battle of the Little Bighorn.
2) Crazy Horse's pipe which had stem about 2 1/2 feet long and a catlinite bowl.
3) Fights The Thunder's all red catlinite pipe.
4) A pipe made by a visiting student from the east coast with a squirrel carved at the bowl. It was sent to Edward at Christmas time. The student had visited and wanted to know the story of the White Buffalo Calf Pipe Woman. So Edward told him the story. Half way through Edward stopped and said he could tell no more. The student was disappointed. Edward said he liked the student's flannel shirt. The student gave it to him and Edward completed the story. He saw Crazy Horse's pipe so he went home and carved a council pipe like what he'd seen in appreciation of Edward.
5) A buffalo leather box with three bowls in it. Two cottonwood bowls owned by Crazy Horse and another bowl made from the knot of a cottonwood with a notch so it could be hung from the belt owned by Puts On Shoes. They had this because Puts On Shoes died with no family.
6) Crazy Horse's cherrywood fork and spoon. The fork was a 'Y' that was used to stab meat and the spoon for soup.
7) A beaded blanket and bridle given by the mother's side to Waglula to honor Crazy Horse about ten years after Crazy Horse's death. I have a polaroid picture of it but it is badly cracked up from the family being used for Part Four of the documentaries. It is of a young woman riding a horse in a parade in the early sixties with the blanket and bridle in use.
8) A drawing of Crazy Horse made by a young man of the Mormon faith while on a mission on the rez in I believe 1932. He drew it on a description supplied by Iron Cedar. It is this picture that surfaced years later at the Little Bighorn Battlefield to put in the Indian Memorial media guide that verified suspicions of who took the chest.
9) There were also many family photos. The ones of the Peter Talks family turned up about four years later in Faith at Harry Cross's Second Hand Store and Meat Processing which later became Varland's Varieties and now is empty in Faith, SD. Amy was with her son Floyd at the store and told him on the way back that she had seen a picture of herself when she was a baby sitting on a star blanket and Peter Talks with a six shooter and another of Peter Talks on horseback. Since the thief was not part of Amy's family the pictures were sold. Amy said nothing and never visited Faith again as long she lived. Floyd was upset she never said anything.
Right after the robbery they went to a medicine man in Red Scaffold to find out who did it. Amy's niece Mona Red Horse asked the question if it was a relative. The medicine man said yes. Amy said she didn't want to know anything more.
An FBI file is still open on the theft because a stolen operating firearm was involved.
Luckily Crazy Horse's sacred medicine bundles had been buried in 1963 by Ed Clown outside his cabin bedroom window so he could see the burial site from the window. There were four. Three parfleche bags and one pouch to be worn around the neck with a crystal rock in it.
I will email Dietmar with a picture of Peter Talks and Amy Traversie Dupris Talks and the beaded blanket with the family's beadwork markings.
