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Post by blueearth2012 on Nov 1, 2009 11:23:57 GMT -5
A'ho! My name is Terry Cross Bear, my father was Mike Cross Bear of Bullhead, South Dakota on the Standing Rock rez'. I am looking for information regarding our family history for my children.
my e-mail address is: tlc.2010@live.com
Pila'maya!
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 7, 2009 7:26:34 GMT -5
Welcome Terry,
Cross Bear was a leader at Standing Rock, but there isn´t that much written about him in history books. I hope you´ll find someone to help you further here. Maybe Ladonna?
Best wishes
Dietmar
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Post by ladonna on Nov 9, 2009 11:26:01 GMT -5
Blackfeet- Lakota Under Chief Charging Bear In the 1885 Rations list
Cross Bear aka Jason Cross Bear (name taken after 1900s lived to be 97 years old)
Born 1834
Spouse: Anpetu Hiyeya-Hannah Crossbear born 1831
Son: Chase Frist Born: 1853 Daughter: Apegiwin-Brown Leaf Born 1871 Daughter Ska agli-Brought White Born 1874 Son: Ziyika-Yellow Born 1877
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Post by ladonna on May 14, 2012 10:20:02 GMT -5
I am trying to do research on Cross Bear Cross Bear was born around 1834. He was of the Čhaŋkahuaŋ band of the Teton Huŋkpapaya; The Sore Backs Band, Anyone have anymore information on this Chief??
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Post by emilylevine on May 14, 2012 16:53:00 GMT -5
This is all Waggoner says:
Chapter Forty-Two Matȟó Očíŋšíča Cross Bear
Cross Bear was born the winter called Psaóhaŋpi—Snow Shoes. This would be 1843. He was of the Čhaŋkȟáhuȟaŋ band of the Teton Húŋkpapȟaya; Sore Backs they were called because their horses had sore backs. He, Running Antelope, and Thunder Hawk were of the same band. Cross Bear was in all the battles fought by the Sioux. After he came to Standing Rock from Canada he served in the police force for fifteen years, being with the police when Sitting Bull was arrested and killed. After he resigned from the police force, he lived near Grand River at Little Eagle till his death on December 20, 1934.
And my note: 1. Jacob Cross Bear (Matȟó=Bear + Óčhiŋšíča=to be bad-tempered, ill-disposed, mean, irritable, belligerent, cranky, 1843-1934), the Sore Back band headman, had been with Sitting Bull in Canada. After returning to the United States he is shown in the 1885 Standing Rock ration list with twenty-four lodges and over eighty people. Census records show a Cross Bear on Standing Rock with two wives, Hail (Wasúwiŋ) and Bird (Ziŋtkála). (Incidentally, census records as late as 1903 show him as living with his two wives.) The 1922-1923 Family Information Surveys show that Cross Bear and his wife were living on an allotment thirteen miles southwest of McLaughlin in a one-room log house. They had two horses but no crops as “[h]e is too old and feeble to do any work (NARA-KC, Standing Rock Records, Box OS35). John M. Carroll’s collection of documents related to the killing of Sitting Bull provides records showing that Cross Bear received a pension of $20 per month for his role as a Special Policeman that morning, but he testified in a 1928 affidavit, when he was eighty-five, that he suffered from bronchial difficulties and that his sole source of income was $80 a year that he received from a land lease rental (The Arrest and Killing of Sitting Bull, 170-71).
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Post by swiftbird659 on May 14, 2012 23:07:20 GMT -5
hello Dietmar! I also have a Wasu in my family records and i am wondering if she is the same person listed above as Hail? I have been researching a long time to find a connection through Wasu and my family tree. Your help would be of great importance to me! The woman you mention as Wasu or Hail? Can you help me find out if this is the same person we speak about? I know her as Wasuicasnawin or Twin Woman, carried on the annuity rolls as Wasu or Rattling Hail Woman. She was Standing Rock Sioux allottee No. 1916. She was born in 1835 and died on Sept. 12, 1907. She was allotted 320 acres on Sec. 1, T. 131, R. 81 on the Standing Rock Sioux Indian Reservation in North Dakota. This woman would have been a sister to my grt, grt, grt, grandmother Sara Ghost Face/Sara Swift Bird. I believe the parents of Wasu are Stays By Himself, 1815-1898 and Swift Crockery, 1820-1887. please let me know if these are the same persons, Wasu listed above and Wasuicasnawin from my family records? Thanks/SB
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Post by ladonna on May 15, 2012 8:51:45 GMT -5
Thank you Emily I am putting together a brief history of the Chief of Standing Rock for the 13th Annual Chief Ride here on Standing Rock, where the horse back riders go to each one of the Chief graves to honor and remember them, we have many children who are on this ride. It starts May 22, 2012 to May 28th everyone rides the 2.3 million acres of Standing Rock to the chief Graves. The decendant of the chief will go out and feed the riders and they tell histories of them family members.
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Post by emilylevine on May 15, 2012 20:25:54 GMT -5
What a beautiful thing LaDonna. I'll be thinking of you all up there.
I know Waggoner would be pleased for you to use any information in her biographies.
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Post by swiftbird659 on May 15, 2012 22:06:36 GMT -5
I do show a probate number if this might help anyone in their research of Wasu/Wasuicasnawin or Rattling Hail Woman. SR-1916, Law Heirship 112188-44 again any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks/SB
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Post by ladonna on May 19, 2012 4:50:59 GMT -5
Now remember there are at least 9 women with the same name so just because they have a name does not mean they are related to each other
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Post by swiftbird659 on May 20, 2012 11:19:22 GMT -5
Yes having the same common name makes it real hard to find relatives! I`m hoping our family relatives on the Standing Rock can help me? Wasu/Wasuicasnawin aka Rattling Hail Woman still has a portion of her Inheirited Interests listed as probate pending. The judge granted a reopening of her probate but the family member from our side did not show at the probate hearing and would have or still can be an heir to this estate. So anyone with any family ties to her i would like to hear from you. Thanks
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Post by ladonna on May 23, 2012 12:37:06 GMT -5
The only Rattle Hail Woman i found with the same birth date is WambliTokheya's mother-in-law
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Post by ladonna on May 23, 2012 12:38:03 GMT -5
what name wouod she be connected to
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Post by Dietmar on May 26, 2012 4:26:29 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on May 26, 2012 7:19:05 GMT -5
It seems we have two different Cross Bears here, do we? One Hunkpapa and one Sihasapa? In Ephriam´s Sitting Bull Surrender Ledger we find Furious Bear who also was known as Cross Bear, and who is listed as Blackfoot: Family 753
Ma-to-o-cin-si-ca, Furious Bear [Cross Bear], 45y, Chief
Wa-se-win, Red Paint, wife, 20y
Zit-tka-la, Bird, sister, 25y
O-we-ci-han, Single File, sister, 6y
Pa-ha-na-jin-kte, One Who Kills While Standing, daughter, 2y
Psi-ca-win, Jumping Woman, daughter, 11y
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