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Post by obemaunoqua52 on Oct 26, 2009 18:22:48 GMT -5
Hi I came here to find people like me who seem to be going in circles in the Native Genealogy area. Certain people from the past 700 years have found more ways to prevent us from finding our ancestors... I have a very mixed native blood line Dakota, Anishshinabe, Cree, Assiniboine, and it just goes on and on when it was in the 1600's-1800 or so it started getting mixed with the French, Scot's,and English. It is so crazy because it would take one woman who married a Frenchman to split up the blood line and then turn around and the children would go back an say marry a full blood this scenario went on and on in my blood line. Not to mention the name changes.. women in my bloodline being full blooded Anishinabe having to take on a French name or English name. OK so that's enough of that lol, I have been digging around in places for over 35 years have met so many nice people all over the the north west, North Central and North East and the UK. I am willing to share anything I have to help people like me to get closer to finding what they need. I have so many unanswered questions about certain era's in time I hope to get some of these issues out so that I can get some sincere answers.. Miigwitch
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 27, 2009 15:44:50 GMT -5
Welcome Miigwitch,
your ancestry sounds interesting. I hope you´ll find some answers here.
Best wishes
Dietmar
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Post by emilylevine on Oct 27, 2009 17:09:17 GMT -5
Welcome obemaunoqua52! By saying Miigwitch, you're just saying "thank you," right? em
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Post by obemaunoqua52 on Oct 27, 2009 18:55:35 GMT -5
Thanks yes it is (ojibwe) Dietmar an emillevine... I speak broken ojibwe so some trimes kind of fluent with mistakes, I'm being honest about it My aunts tought me when growing up and my mom spoke it but when she moved off the reservation she soon forgot a lot too. but I am forgetful also. My Journey is to find the last name of one of my Great x3 Grandmother she was Sioun mixed with something oral stories and hand me down stories have said cree or Assiniboine. I am enrolled in a MN rez. Have lots of questions about the things that are not told in the history books. They fail to tell you how it really was...I have pictures I would love to put up just have to figure it out...I really like what people have posted it's amazing how some of this is all coming about. I started when the internet first came alive back in 1997 or so lol think that was the year but before that it was sooooo hard getting any information now we can connect with people I am thankful for this. Have a great day Obemau52
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Post by Diane Merkel on Oct 28, 2009 10:49:33 GMT -5
Welcome! To post photos, they must be on a server so they have a web address. For example, Dietmar's avatar's address is www.American-Tribes.com/images/Dietmar.jpg. To make that show as a photo, you can either highlight the address and click the little photo icon that is fourth button from the left on the reply menu, or you can simply put tags around it. (Sounds more complicated than it is.) It would look like the below but with brackets [] rather than arrows: <img>www.American-Tribes.com/images/Dietmar.jpg</img> Done properly with brackets, the address above produces this: I hope this helps! Diane
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 2, 2009 14:22:17 GMT -5
obemaunoqua52,
oops, I´m sorry about the Miigwitch faux-pax.
I feel we´ve neglected the Ojibwa history on this message board so far. Hopefully we´ll post more about them in the future.
Greetings
Dietmar
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Post by ladonna on Nov 20, 2009 16:18:45 GMT -5
I never even notice that we did not have a site for our relatives the Anishshinabe/ojibwe/Chippewa history it would be nice to one.
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Post by nellie on Mar 4, 2010 12:54:47 GMT -5
Hello, I am the eldest living biological daughter of Pete Catches Sr. I have seen and heard some discussions regarding my father, who isn't with us to defend himself so I am going to say this. The book he wrote "Oceti Wakan" was written by him, narrated to Robert Holden. I can name names who helped him in this process that are still with us. So excuse me, but those people (particularly the Clown people) who have said that that book was not an authentic, have them notify me. As far as "hunka" relative or that my father taught him in the way of ceremonies, I beg to differ because I was sundancing with him in the '70's and I don't recall him being there. Some people will say anything to get their point across, past ethics or truth. thank you.
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 6, 2010 6:11:11 GMT -5
Nellie, welcome to our boards. It´s an honor to have a daughter of Pete Catches here with us. I can´t say anything about this controversy, but I remember we discussed here in another thread about your father: amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=teton&action=display&thread=719I think we all have deep respect and admiration for him. So I hope this matter can be settled. Best wishes Dietmar
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Post by brock on Mar 6, 2010 20:16:30 GMT -5
Nellie,
I am the one who posted initially on your father's thread.
I'm not sure where the information is coming from that any of the Clown's that I know and specifically Floyd Clown has ever said anything but glowing things about your father and his book. In fact he recommended that I read it. I have never heard him say that your father didn't write and I know he would be quick to correct anyone who said that he didn't because I asked him about Pete Jr editing it and he was adamant that it was your father's book and Pete Jr was just helping your father get it in print.
As far as Floyd's contact with your father, Floyd decided to begin learning the spiritual side in 1977 with Jim Marshall. In the summer of 1978 they went on their first sundance up on Standing Rock at Little Eagle and Floyd told me that your father pierced him that year and told him what to do along with the rest of the new sundancers. During that sundance another sundancer named Rich White had a vision with Floyd in it where they would hemblecha together that winter.
He said later on when he pierced sundancers he always did it the same as how your father did it to him.
He told me that over the winter of 1977-78 your father stayed on the Cheyenne River Rez around Dupree and that Floyd would go over to where your father was staying (the names of the people he was staying with escape my mind but I could supply the names after a phone call) and he would ask questions and just listen to your father. When it came time for Rich White to hemblecha over New Years 1978, Floyd kept his commitment and they hemblecha'd at Bear Butte with your father present. The hemblecha lasted for two days.
After the hemblecha was over your father gave Floyd his Lakota name, Sitesapela Niye Kico or Blacktail Deer Calls You. Not long afterward you father became sick and had to go to the hospital for an operation to patch a hole in his insides. After his release he was in a sweat and during the sweat he told Jim Marshall, Floyd and a few others to call him their grandfather and he would call them his grandsons from that time on. I know that's not a full hunka ceremony but they felt the understanding was there over and above just a respectful title and it could have even been a way of thanking them for their prayers while he was having the operation. That's what I know. This is not a story Floyd tells unless he's asked specifically which I did.
Floyd told me Pete Jr knows him.
If you would like them to contact you please send me your contact information in a private message and I will get on them to get hold of you. I know they have the highest esteem for your father, especially Floyd.
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