Looking at the photo of Big Tree in the Jones collection, it's clear that the studio bacdrop is the same as the one for the early Quanah photo on page 1 of this thread - which seems to be the earliest QP photo. When did Bliss work at Fort Sill? I've seen it suggested he was there in the early to mid-70s, but elsewhere, the dates given are 1878-9. Just wondered if we could date the Quanah photo any earlier that the date it's been given here.
Big Tree, dated 1871-3, according to the Jones Collection data
Last Edit: Mar 27, 2010 6:20:15 GMT -5 by grahamew
Hello Grahame, As you know, Big Tree was in prsion in the period 1871-73, so it is likely that the photograph above was taken later. Also, Big Tree appears a bit older than those taken by Soule in the late 1860's. My guess, the mid to late 1870's for both the Big Tree and Quanah images... my best, Jeroen
found the following report about a silent movie from 1920 on the net. The movie is called The Daughter Of Dawn . The 80-minute, six-reel silent film was shot with an all-Indian cast (mostly Comanches and Kiowas). Historians suppose, that two of the key roles in the film are played by White and Wanada Parker - the son and daughter of Quanah Parker.
"Ce-ti Quineine" is not NumutekwapU. The only link I can think of with it is that early on, ca 1875-1880 or so, the name was often spelled "Quina," leading to the speculation that his name was not /Kwana/ 'odor', but was /kwina/ 'eagle' [thus the title of the book "Eagle of the Comanches."
tk [hard at work bringing Numunuu history up to 1966]
PS the above "A close up from a photograph in the Lawrence T. Jones collection, dated 1908-10" is by a Chickasha photographer who went by the name of "That Man [---]" (I can't remember the surname he used). This was a dance troupe that Quanah organized. I have the complete identifications back in Boston (I'm on my way to Oklahoma by way of Montana for Comanche Homecoming in mid-July.)