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Post by yellowwolf's on Apr 22, 2019 18:18:48 GMT -5
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Post by yellowwolf's on Apr 23, 2019 9:18:19 GMT -5
I think that the first represented the famous Southern Cheyenne head chief YELLOW WOLF - Hisiometanio (Ridge Men) band – who died in 1864 Sand Creek massacre. In march 1863 it’s sure that he travelled to Washington to meet President Lincoln together a Kiowa peace delegation. In the second photo is the whole delegation. In the wonderful site of British Museum, in this photo he is labelled as “Yellow Wolf” – Cheyenne.    |
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Post by yellowwolf's on Apr 23, 2019 10:05:35 GMT -5
I think that the first represented the famous Southern Cheyenne head chief YELLOW WOLF - Hisiometanio (Ridge Men) band – who died in 1864 Sand Creek massacre. In march 1863 it’s sure that he travelled to Washington to meet President Lincoln together a Kiowa peace delegation. In the second photo is the whole delegation. In the wonderful site of British Museum, in this photo he is labelled as “Yellow Wolf” – Cheyenne.    |
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Post by yellowwolf's on Apr 23, 2019 10:08:43 GMT -5
I think that the first represented the famous Southern Cheyenne head chief YELLOW WOLF - Hisiometanio (Ridge Men) band – who died in 1864 Sand Creek massacre. In march 1863 it’s sure that he travelled to Washington to meet President Lincoln together a Kiowa peace delegation. In the second photo is the whole delegation. In the wonderful site of British Museum, in this photo he is labelled as “Yellow Wolf” –CHEYENNE. Attachments:
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Post by Dietmar on May 9, 2019 8:17:33 GMT -5
Well, it is tempting to believe that the envoy named Yellow Wolf is the famous Cheyenne chief. But where are the sources to prove it? All contemporary reports from 1863 that I have seen so far include Yellow Wolf in the Kiowa delegation. The Cheyenne delegation, on the other hand, includes three other names in all reports. The Cheyenne Yellow Wolf, known for his activities at Bent´s Fort, would certainly have been the highest-ranking chief among the men of the southern Cheyenne, instead being called Lean Bear everywhere.
How can the envoy Yellow Wolf die of pneumonia in 1863 during his stay in the east, only to die again at Sand Creek the following year? Without new evidence, I maintain that the 1863 delegate Yellow Wolf and Cheyenne chief Yellow Wolf were two different people.
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Post by yellowwolf's on Oct 5, 2019 3:51:32 GMT -5
Dietmar: I've a bio of Yellow Wolf (Cheyenne) where the Italian author (D'Aniello) stated that him travelled in March 1863 to Washington with a Kiowa delegation. In your fisrt two photos he is sitting near the other 3 Cheyenne chiefs. In the photo of Kiowa delegation, look with attention at his decorated shirt: it is a typicall Cheyenne dress, not Kiowa. And then, in the site of British Museum (very serious) he is just labelled "Cheyenne" and not "Kiowa". May be that there were a minor Kiowa chef called also him "Yellow Wolf" but that he did not appear in the photo, because already sick of pneumonia at the time. Attachments:
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Post by yellowwolf's on Oct 5, 2019 4:00:54 GMT -5
Dietmar: I've a bio of Yellow Wolf (Cheyenne) where the Italian author (D'Aniello) stated that him travelled in March 1863 to Washington with a Kiowa delegation. In your fisrt two photos he is sitting near the other 3 Cheyenne chiefs. In the photo of Kiowa delegation, look with attention at his decorated shirt: it is a typicall Cheyenne dress, not Kiowa. And then, in the site of British Museum (very serious) he is just labelled "Cheyenne" and not "Kiowa". May be that there were a minor Kiowa chef called also him "Yellow Wolf" but that he did not appear in the photo, because already sick of pneumonia at the time. |
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 29, 2020 17:33:40 GMT -5
Well, just saw this on Ebay hidden between some common pictures... but isn´t this one of the Cheyenne delegates of 1863 wearing an army uniform??  |
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Post by grahamew on Mar 30, 2020 2:39:16 GMT -5
That's a Zouave outfit - but's a doctored photo:  |
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Post by grahamew on Mar 30, 2020 2:42:08 GMT -5
This one, anyhow:  |
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 30, 2020 2:44:22 GMT -5
Oh yes, thanks, and is the soldier´s photo by Mathew Brady?
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Post by grahamew on Mar 30, 2020 2:49:24 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 30, 2020 2:53:36 GMT -5
Haha, thanks. I almost believed it.
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Post by grahamew on Mar 30, 2020 3:10:24 GMT -5
How could you tell it was Brady? The carpet?
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I think that the first represented the famous Southern Cheyenne head chief YELLOW WOLF - Hisiometanio (Ridge Men) band – who died in 1864 Sand Creek massacre. In march 1863 it’s sure that he travelled to Washington to meet President Lincoln together a Kiowa peace delegation. In the second photo is the whole delegation. In the wonderful site of British Museum, in this photo he is labelled as “Yellow Wolf” – Cheyenne.
