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Post by Dietmar on Aug 30, 2009 17:24:43 GMT -5
Jeroen,
I believe the photo you posted is of an Yankton named White Swan. I think Smillie photographed him too in the early 1900s. I´ll look tomorrow...
Dietmar
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Post by Dietmar on Aug 31, 2009 16:28:18 GMT -5
Indeed he looks like the Yankton White Swan, who was also known as Joseph H. Ellis, Jr. If you search for "White Swan" at SIRIS, you´ll find several photos of him by Smillie and Gill.
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 15, 2009 16:45:42 GMT -5
A website visitor asks if there´s a source for the statement that Paul Swan´s Lakota name was Little Swan.
Can someone confirm or correct this?
Thanks.
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Post by kingsleybray on Oct 16, 2009 16:28:40 GMT -5
In his Bureau of American Ethnology publication on the winter counts Garrick Mallery writes:
"A Minneconjou chief, The-Swan, elsewhere called The-Little-Swan, kept this record on the dressed skin of an antelope or deer, claiming that it had been preserved in his family for seventy years."
(Pictographs of the North American Indians, p. 94)
The reference is to Paul Swan, the active keeper of the count when it was collected . However the name Little Swan is also used of his father in the count entries (pp 124-125) recording his death in 1866-67.
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 20, 2009 14:27:23 GMT -5
Thank you, Kingsley!
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 23, 2009 11:50:10 GMT -5
A new photo of White Swan (Paul Swan) from ebay: Obviously it´s from the same session when he was photographed in Washington with Four Bears.
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Post by Historian on Dec 30, 2009 12:01:51 GMT -5
William Swan and family - Mniconjou - 1922 (Whitehorse District, Cheyenne River Reservation)
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Post by grahamew on May 24, 2010 14:48:25 GMT -5
White Swan by R. L. Kelly or by someone else (Scott?) in a Kelly mount. Cowans reckons it was taken after 1889, though the Spotted Eagle photo he was paired with (and which IS a Kelly) is from the early 1880s.
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Post by swiftbird659 on Nov 3, 2010 16:11:23 GMT -5
Wow! Can you tell me if White Swan is the same man in this testomony by Doane Robinson. "In 1892 and again in1900, I visited the Cheyenne River Agency and spent several days each time in the company of Martin Charger, Swift Bird, White Swan and other old Sioux of the best and most reliable families of the Tetons. I carefully interrogated them relating to the conquest of the Rees by the Teton Sioux. They agreed upon tradition that the Teton found the Rees in strong positions in the neighborhood of Pierre. That they fought them for forty years, but were unable to dislodge them from their entrenched villages until the Sioux, had gotten possession of all the country surrounding the Ree villages and kept the buffalo so far away that the Rees could not get to them and so were starved out and were compelled to move. Swift Bird, the half Indian son of David LaChapelle, the French trader, and who was born at the mouth of Chapelle Creek in 1832, was particularly lucid in the particulars. His mother`s father was prominent in the Ree War. He said the Tetons wanted possession of the range country out here because the buffalo grazed here all winter. He and all of the Sioux verified the statement of Lewis and Clark, that the Rees did not give up the Pierre region until near the end of the eighteenth century"(SDSHC,vol. 3 1906, 285 & 496).
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Post by kingsleybray on Nov 17, 2010 6:23:15 GMT -5
Yes this is the same White Swan. By the way thanks for posting the above because I was unfamiliar with that essay by Doane Robinson, but followed it up and found the volume of SOUTH DAKOTA HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS available to read online at www.archive.org. White Swan and Swift Bird gave great infromation about the Lakota migration into the Missouri valley. Do you know who Swift Bird's maternal grandfather was, who played a big role in the Arikara war at the end of the 18th century?
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Post by swiftbird659 on Nov 17, 2010 9:57:30 GMT -5
kingsleybray, i have not yet found the name of Swift Bird`s maternal grandfather. I hope with your help i can find out. This qoute by Doane Robinson might help explain why there`s so little known. "Many years ago I interviewed Swift Bird Chapelle, a mixed blood born at DeGrey, South Dakota before 1830.He was an unusually intelligent man and a sort of tribal historian. His grandfather (a notable chief in his estimation) had been active in the Sioux-Ree War of the Eighteenth Century and he undertook to tell the consecutive history of the Sioux in central South Dakota. Unfortunately my notes upon that interview, together with a large amount of other historic data, were carelessly burned while i resided in Aberdeen and I have only my memory of the circumstances that he related. He told of the first post (Loisel`s) in the vicinity of DeGrey, and of another subsequently built there, long before Fort Pierre was built", (SDSHC.,vol. 12, 1924, p. 92,190-191).
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Post by swiftbird659 on Nov 17, 2010 15:51:14 GMT -5
kingsleybray, Thank You again for your help. I have not been able to find the name of Swift Bird`s maternal grandfather as of yet,but i do have this on Swift Bird`s father. David LaChapelle. The Chapelle`s were natives of Montreal; the real name was Janot, but the nickname has been in use for a long time and as early as 1750 the real name was rarely used. Bazile Janot Lachapelle, was the grandfather of David. He was born at Montreal in 1741 and there married Marie Elizabeth Choquet in 1767. Three years later they removed to Kaskaskia where Bazile was an important citizen for thirty years. His sons were Antoine, Jean Baptiste, Joseph, Louis and perhaps Charles. Which of these was the father of David I am unable to learn. David came to the Dakota region as early as 1828 and married a Sioux woman of the Two Kettle band, and they maintained a sort of home at the mouth of Chapelle Creek which was named for David. In 1829 a son was born to this union, who became the notable Swift Bird of the Cheyenne River reservation. Chapelle continued to make his home at Chapelle Creek until his death which occurred sometime in the seventies. (SDSHC, vol. 9, 1918, p.117).
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Post by swiftbird659 on Oct 15, 2011 16:41:43 GMT -5
The important historical events of Kaskaskia`s history go back as far as 1686 and soon afterwards the early french traders arrived and established a trading post and a mission station.. Father Gravier took charge of the mission in 1690and christened it "The Village of the Imaculate Conception of the Holy Virgin. Around 1720 the first large imigration of pioneers arrived from Canada and France making it a permanent settlement as a French village. As a gift, King Louis XV of France gave the Catholic Church in Kaskaskia a 650 pound bell that was towed up the Mississippi River from New Orleans in 1743. During the French and Indian Wars (1756-1763) Bazile and his fellow residents feared that the British would soon attack, so they petitioned the French Government for a fort, which stood on a hill across the Kaskaskia River from the village until 1766 when the towns people destoyed it rather than seing it fall into the hands of the British. On the night of July 04, 1778, Bazile and the other residents rang the bell in celebration from the British by the Americans during the American Revolution which was led by George Rodgers Clark and his Kentucky"Long Knives" who launched a surprise attack and liberated the town without firing a single shot. In 1784, Kaskaskia was plunged into anarchy when the local government broke down and the villagers were terrorized for several years by a Connecticut adventurer named John Dodge and his group of bandits. On Nov. 29, 1803, Lewis and Clark`s Corps of Discovery expedition arrived at Kaskaskia in which 11 of the towns` men voluteered to join the expedition (The History of Randolph County, Illinois, Old Kaskaskia Island by E.J. Montague, 1859, Randolph County Cesus Records 1807-1825 and the Kaskaskia State Historical Site).
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 4, 2012 11:47:18 GMT -5
There´s plenty of new information about the White Swan family at the terrific Colonel Welch Papers website. I try to sum it up before posting the quotes of Amanda Grass, daughter of White Swan III, from said site: From Amanda Grass´ statements: - her grandfather White Swan [White Swan II] died at age 102 - he had three daughters married to Uses Him As A Shield, father of John Grass - her father White Swan [White Swan III] born 1814, died 1866 at age 52 - his other name seem to had been Iron Cloud, Makpiya Maza - he married Blue Cloud, daughter of a Sans Arc father and a Miniconjou mother - he married another wife, cousin to Blue Cloud - White Swan and Blue Cloud had these children: sons: White Swan {aka Paul Swan] Puts On His Shoes aka Willam Swan John Fine Weather aka His Wound/His War aka Black Eyes (wounded 1866 in Fetterman fight) daughters: Shell Woman aka Amanda Grass aka Cecilia Grass aka Red Cloth, born 1852, died 1920, married John Grass in 1874 Red Buffalo Woman unnamed child (died early) - There was also a half sister called Wasula [possibly a daughter of White Swan and his other wife] Shell Woman aka Amanda Grass www.welchdakotapapers.com/2011/12/war-drums-genuine-war-stories-from-the-sioux-mandan-hidatsa-and-arikara/#story-no-24“My name is Campeska Imanipi Win (Walking on the Shell Woman). My father was Maga Ska (White Swan). He was a great chief among the Minniconjou. He had only two wives. The name of my mother was Mahpiya To (Blue Cloud). Her father was of the Itazeptchos (Sans Arcs). Her mother was of the Minnicojou. We were Tintonwanna (Tetons). My father died when I was fourteen years old. I am sixty-nine today. He died when he was one-hundred and two years old – my father’s father did. He was very old. He crawled around like a baby on the ground. My father was fifty-two when he died (Note: date of her father’s birth would be 1814).” (…) “There were four chiefs of the Minniconjou. White Swan was the first. One Horn was second chief. Black Shield was third chief and Eagle Parent was fourth chief. When I was a girl there were many lodges of the Minniconjou. I think there were one-thousand people at that time.” “White Swan, my father, had two wives. They were cousins of each other. One Horn had four wives. His father had ten wives. I knew seven of them.. I never saw the others. Maybe they were dead. I do not know. Black Shield had three wives. Eagle Parent had only one wife. She ran away. She went with another man. When she came back he took her back. He did not do the right thing in this. He was not chief any more after he took her back. One Horn had a woman and she ran away, too. He took her back. He was not chief after that time. He died then. Black Shield died, too. That way my father became head chief of the Minniconjou.” (…) “Twenty days after the mourning for Chief White Swan, the fighting men attacked a place. There were soldiers there. It was on one of the branches of the Missouri river. There was a fort there. The Indians killed all of the soldiers there. They killed many. Many Indians were wounded. My brother was wounded. His name was His War. He was hit in the leg with a piece of iron. This was at White Butte. It was north a long ways.” www.welchdakotapapers.com/2011/12/sacred-stones-and-holy-places/Walking on the Shell Woman. Her father was White Swan, a great chief of the Minniconjou, one of the seven tribes of the Tetonawanna. Born 1852, died 1920. This is the woman known to Col. A.B.Welch as “Ina” (Mother) – she was a pleasant soul and known to the Dakota as the greatest woman historian among them. This is the woman who stood in the Dakota winter winds and cold so that the Colonel might be warm, who hungered in order that he might be satisfied with food; who forced herself to sleepless nights that he might have sleep and rest while he was in the World War. www.welchdakotapapers.com/2011/11/chief-john-grass-2/John Grass’ wives: The first woman he married was a Sicangu (Burnt Thighs), (a west of the river Teton Tribe). Mother of John Grass, Jr., She went away (home). Second wife was Kampeskaimanipiwin (Walking on the Shell Woman). She was Ina (mother) to Welch after his adoption. She died at White Swan’s house. Ina had a brother, His Wound, and he had other names: Fine Weather and Ista Sapa (Black Eyes). Third wife was Ptesanmaniwin (White Cow Walking Woman/White Buffalo Cow Walking woman). Uses Him as a Shield wives: Three wives were sisters, their father was White Swan, a great chief of the Minniconjou. Second Wife was Mahpiyanta Keyopakewin (Goes to Heaven and Sits on a Cloud Woman). Third Wife was Wiceqawin (Little Woman). One son, Andrew Knife. Three Wives were all sisters and Blackfeet. www.welchdakotapapers.com/2011/11/chief-john-grass-2/Amanda Grass was the daughter of Chief White Swan and Blue Thunder. Her brothers were John Fine Feather; William White Swan or Puts on His Shoes; White Swan (who died and the older brother took his name). Sisters were: Red Buffalo Woman, Unnamed child who died when young, Wasula, a half sister. There were others who died many years before without issue. (…) “My father and mother were both Minneconjou, and he was Itancan Ota among our people. There were five children in my father’s family. One, Waga Ska (White Swan), was a great warrior against the Crows. My father was a very good talker and all the people listened to him. When he died, all the people were very sorry and cried and wept. My mother is buried in the Holy Ground at Wakpala, S.D., and my relatives named Swan live there. My father was Makpiya Maza (Iron Cloud).”
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Post by Dietmar on Aug 17, 2015 13:00:52 GMT -5
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