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Post by grahamew on Jul 6, 2010 14:24:39 GMT -5
So that's Old Harney in the other photo?
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Post by dickmill on Jul 6, 2010 15:59:15 GMT -5
I don't think it's Old Harney in the photo with the agents and Pratt. The man looks younger and it's a different hat -- similar in shape, but not "decorations."
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 31, 2010 7:13:51 GMT -5
Does anyone know about this Cross photo? I´ve seen it in one of those collages posted earlier, but have no ID. A better resolution photo perhaps?
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Post by Dietmar on Feb 6, 2011 8:02:06 GMT -5
The same picture as posted above, still it can´t be read who he is: What about this man?:
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 29, 2012 4:37:57 GMT -5
Here´s a new photo by W. R. Cross I haven´t seen before. Any chance to identify the man, perhaps by the decoration of his tipi?:
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Post by Dietmar on Nov 13, 2013 11:20:13 GMT -5
I´m sorry for being absent for a couple of weeks. However, in the meantime I´ve found some more photos by W.R. Cross: unidentified woman & Crazy Bear Pine Ridge Indian Camp Two unknown women from Pine Ridge Do we know anything about Crazy Bear, possibly Oglala?
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Post by grahamew on Nov 13, 2013 14:11:49 GMT -5
I'm thinking it's a later Cross. S Is it not the same man photographed by Trager around the time of Wounded Knee?
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Post by Dietmar on Dec 2, 2013 13:47:21 GMT -5
Here´s another photo by W.R. Cross, kind of blurry, but nevertheless fascinating. "No. 95 Indian Summer Quarters" by W. R. Cross
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 1, 2014 6:12:20 GMT -5
Thanks for posting these, Grahame. This is Black Horse, Lakota: I´ve seen Little Hawk labelled in several publications as "Cheyenne", but I believe he is rather the son of Two Strike (Sichangu/Brule). Two Bears is not the better known Yanktonai chief, but a Hunkpapa. I agree with the identification of Red Skirt.
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 1, 2014 17:48:46 GMT -5
Excellent scans Grahame!
The clearest version of that Cross portrait of Fast Bear I have seen so far. Fast Bear is also know as Quick Bear, a Wazhazha leader. Are these from Heritage auctions?
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 1, 2014 17:55:08 GMT -5
This one is interesting. As the caption says it was taken at Cheyenne River Agency. I´m still trying to discern the individuals in the photo, it seems to me that the ones sitting in the middle row are (from left to right): No Heart, Martin Charger, (white man), Joseph Four Bears, Swift Bird
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Post by grahamew on Jun 2, 2014 1:25:33 GMT -5
What do you reckon as a date for this one?
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Post by Dietmar on Jun 2, 2014 10:23:33 GMT -5
I would guess early 1880s?
After looking at the blown-up scan I´m more confident that the IDs are correct.
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Post by Dietmar on May 20, 2015 8:17:13 GMT -5
The current auction at Cowan´s has a new and interesting portrait of White Buffalo, a photo I haven´t seen before. The mount of the photograph is by Deadwood photographer L. W. Stilwell, but from the backdrop and the style of the picture it is obvious that the original was taken by William Richard Cross. He also took pictures of Womans Dress and White Bird, both Oglalas, in front of the same backdrop, probably during the same session. I assume this is not the Mniconjou White Bull, but possibly a Pine Ridge chief named White Buffalo. Do we know anything about this man?
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Post by kingsleybray on May 20, 2015 9:33:36 GMT -5
Any ideas of the likely age of this photo, Dietmar? There was a Pine Ridge headman named White Bull, according to John Colhoff the leader of the Peshla (Bald Head) band, Porcupine District. He has an interesting family background, and it would be nice to work out if this is he.
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