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Post by charlie on Feb 27, 2019 10:15:57 GMT -5
ROCKY BEAR (Inyan Mato)- Born in 1836 in Kiyuksa band of Oglala subdivision. Father: Savage Bear Mother: White Thunder Woman Wives: White Buffalo Cow and Road. In 26 may 1870 he went in Washington together Red Cloud. In june 1876 he fought at LBH. Among 1887 and 1891 he partecipated at the "Wild West Show" in Europe and Usa. He died 29 october 1909. There are a lot of photos of him. I hope that Dietmar and other experts post its later.
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Post by gregor on Feb 27, 2019 13:23:53 GMT -5
Here we go.
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Post by gregor on Feb 27, 2019 13:26:35 GMT -5
And this is what I have on Rocky Bear:
Rocky Bear Oglala (abt. 1825/30 – Oct 29, 1909) Inyan Mato
Rocky Bear, a minor Kiyuksa Oglala band chief at Pine Ridge Agency, was born about 1825/30. Rocky Bear is mainly known for his work with the Buffalo Bill Wild West Shows. Only little is known of his life as a young man. In 1866 he participated in the Fetterman Fight and in 1876 he was at the Greasy Grass (Little Bighorn River). He became publicly known as a member of the first Red Cloud delegation to Washington in 1870 (see NYT, June 2, 1870).
In February 1871 General C.C. Augur reported to Washington that 2.795 Lakotas, among them Rocky Bear with 17 Lodges and 85 persons, settle around Fort Laramie. Agent J.J. Saville engaged Rocky Bear, who was related to Big Bat Pourier, in 1874 as Policeman for the town Pine Ridge.
In 1881 Rocky Bear became contracted employee of William Cody’s Wild West Show; in the mid eighties he travelled with Cody as far as Europe, where a curious incident was reported. Rocky Bear clashed with fellow Oglala Red Shirt. Red Shirt was one of the leading Indians with Cody's Wild West Show, but in 1889 he left the show in Barcelona following a quarrel with Rocky Bear in France. Rocky Bear then took over as the leading Indian. One reason suggested for the quarrel was jealousy. Apparently, Red Shirt had more luck with the French women than Rocky Bear.
On July 5, 1895 reported the Concord Evening Monitor: "Rocky Bear, the 70-year-old chief who commands Colonel Cody's detachment of Sious [sic] and who is second in authority in the whole Sioux nation, has been with the Wild West show for 14 years, and even the charms of undivided rule could hardly tempt him from his place in the front line of the "Congress of Rough Riders."
Rocky Bear, who was an early and longtime favorite of Cody, received $75 a month's salary. According to Cody he was noble and articulate and with an impressive and powerful physical appearance. Rocky Bear was a defender of Cody's treatment of Indian performers; he interacted with royalty, had an audience with Pope Leo XIII, and met President Cleveland. Except for his time in Europe he was several times listed as Head of the Household on the Indian Census at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation / Wounded Knee District. Rocky Bear died at his home on Oct 29, 1909.
Father: Savage Bear, born abt. 1792 Mother: White Thunder Woman, born abt 1800
Spouses No.1: White Buffalo Cow (?), married about 1842 No.2: Road or Tracks (1836?- 1904), married abt. 1854 No.3: Runs Ahead (1844 – aft. 1904), married abt. 1864
Children: Sophia Rocky Bear b: abt. 1850 Lucy Rocky Bear, b: 1850 Ela Rocky Bear - Bissonett b: bef. 1865 Silas Hawk b. 1879 Jessie Rocky Bear b. 1878 Thomas Rocky Bear b. 1880 Mary Rock Bear b. 1884
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Post by gregor on Feb 27, 2019 13:29:30 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Feb 28, 2019 2:19:26 GMT -5
George Spencer, 1891 - 93? 1886, while with Buffalo Bill Judging by Red Cloud's appearance, early - mid 1890s 1886 - this time with Buffalo Bill Rome, 1890 (?) with the Wild West Show
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Post by charlie on Feb 28, 2019 6:30:39 GMT -5
Hello Gregor, thank you for the additional info. About your first photo (sitting with war bonnet),who is the photographer? I have seen it labelled "L.W. Stillwell" but i don't known him. The wonderful fourth "seppia" photo (standing with bow and arrows) i think is by Zalmon Gilbert.
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Post by grahamew on Feb 28, 2019 12:37:38 GMT -5
That one isn't by Gilbert and was taken, I'd guess, on a Wild West Show tour. Gilbert was in North Dakota and the Lakotas he photographed tended to be from Standing Rock. It's also not one of his backdrops. At a guess, I'd say the other is by George Spencer, circa 1891-3, as is the first one I posted. This a Muhr and Rhinehart portrait, 1899 Shortly after Wounded Knee. There's a fair bit of incorrect identification here, but here's Rocky Bear in the broad brimmed hat standing at the left Another taken shortly after Wounded Knee 1870 delegation photo - Rocky Bear is at the right A variant on the image above, 1886 Cropped from the image in the above post, 1886 The 1886 Cody group of Pawnee and Lakota - but without Cody... Rocky Bear, second row, towards the left - with Cody's Wild West Show, 1893 A later photo from his time with Buffalo Bill Venice with Cody, 1890? Another Cody photo - with Red Shirt and the artist, Rosa Bonheur Presumably also taken during a Wild West Show tour. Tne backdrop looks familiar, but I can't place it
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Feb 28, 2019 19:37:24 GMT -5
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Post by daphne on Feb 28, 2019 19:37:24 GMT -5
How tall was Rocky Bear?
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Post by grahamew on Mar 1, 2019 2:16:46 GMT -5
Can't remember where but I seem to recall Cody being six one or six two (I wonder if he's standing on something in the Wounded Knee photo), and he's wearing boots, so I suspect Rocky Bear was the same. Hard to tell, but he looks taller than Cody in the 1886 photo but slightly smaller in the one taken in Venice...
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Post by gregor on Mar 3, 2019 10:11:53 GMT -5
Hello Gregor, thank you for the additional info. About your first photo (sitting with war bonnet),who is the photographer? I have seen it labelled "L.W. Stillwell" but i don't known him. The wonderful fourth "seppia" photo (standing with bow and arrows) i think is by Zalmon Gilbert. Charlie, sorry, but I have no additional Info on the photgrapher. Gregor
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Post by grahamew on Mar 3, 2019 15:59:11 GMT -5
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Post by charlie on Mar 3, 2019 16:42:23 GMT -5
Watching with attention at the first image posted by Grahamew, the first photo of this chapter is very similar and could be by John Anderson: there is his name printed down. The image of 1870 delegation (Brady?) is wonderful!!!
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Post by grahamew on Jun 16, 2019 3:46:24 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Mar 21, 2020 12:19:23 GMT -5
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Post by tomfc on Jan 21, 2021 6:47:57 GMT -5
<< Rocky Bear clashed with fellow Oglala Red Shirt. Red Shirt was one of the leading Indians with Cody's Wild West Show, but in 1889 he left the show in Barcelona following a quarrel with Rocky Bear in France. Rocky Bear then took over as the leading Indian. One reason suggested for the quarrel was jealousy. Apparently, Red Shirt had more luck with the French women than Rocky Bear. >>
I am presently comping a list of the Indians on the 1889-90 tour and would be very interested to have more precise information on Red Shirt's departure. L.G. Moses, at p. 86 of Wild West Shows, displays a group photo which he alleges was taken in Naples, during January or February 1890, which would move the date of his departure forward.
However, a handwritten inscription on the face of the photo reads 'Banks Mediterranean Ocean 1889', so it is possible that Moses has mis-identified the location.
At p. 119, Moses states that Rocky Bear succeeded in communicating with a Zulu chief, by means of sign language, in Glasgow, Scotland. I can categorically state that Rocky Bear was not on that particular tour and that the man to whom this feat is more routinely attributed to is Kicking Bear.
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