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Post by Dietmar on Sept 24, 2008 7:44:30 GMT -5
Spotted Eagle aka Two Eagles was a Itazipco leader at the Little Bighorn battle. Here are some photographs of him: by L.A. Huffman by L.A. Huffman by R. L. Kelly According to a source I found in the net, the war club owned by Chief Spotted Eagle is currently in the Keppler Collection but on lone to the National Museum of the American Indian. The war club is 50.5 inches long and 9 inches wide. The sides are decorated with brass tacks and 3 government issue knives inserted at one end made it an even more formidable weapon. Here Spotted Eagle sits beside Big Foot when both were part of a delegation to Washington in 1888: Spotted Eagle & Big Foot
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Post by grahamew on Sept 24, 2008 11:46:58 GMT -5
I'm sure this is Spotted Eagle second from the right of the back row: This is supposed to be him in Canada though I suspect the identification is based on the presence of the war club. I've also seen this identified as a photo of a Cree camp:
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Post by Low Dog on Sept 24, 2008 15:43:21 GMT -5
Grahamew,
you have an eagle eye my friend, I'm pretty sure that is indeed Spotted Eagle. As to the other photograph, I think your right about the club, but on that basis, it could just as well be Long Dog, and from the photographs I've seen of him, I'd say the body shape is more Long Dog than Spotted Eagle,
Low Dog
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Post by jeroen on Aug 29, 2009 15:01:29 GMT -5
Found this Huffman picture identified as Young Spotted Eagle, don't think it is actually him, my guess it is a son:
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 2, 2009 14:41:35 GMT -5
Yes, he is very likely Spotted Eagle´s son... or nephew. There´s another portrait of him where he is named Scorched Lightning.
Does anyone have additional information on Spotted Eagle´s family?
Thanks. Dietmar
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Post by emilylevine on Sept 2, 2009 20:58:51 GMT -5
"Spotted Eagle was born the year called when Big Crow and His Brother were Killed, Cangi Tanka ahiwiktepi. This was 1859. Spotted Eagle was head chief of the Itazipco or Sans Arc as the French called them. He was of the Wakan band or the Holy band. This band was called the Holy band because the held the sacred calf peace pipe. He was a hereditary chief. Miniconwoju and Itazipco were closely allied; they were always together and joined by marriage relationships. Part of this band were hostile and were out with Sitting Bull; part of them were Agency Indians. Spotted Eagle was made a chief when his father..." [page torn off here, no other pages found at this point] ©Josephine Waggoner [DO NOT REPRODUCE]
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Post by grahamew on Sept 3, 2009 2:49:59 GMT -5
1859? He was supposed to be in his 40s when he went to Canada.
The 1888 photo shows a considerably older man
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Post by jeroen on Sept 3, 2009 5:44:58 GMT -5
I agree with Grahame, the photos posted here all show Spotted Eagle in the early 1880's, when he was middle aged. Also, if Young Spotted Eagle/ Scorched Lightning was indeed his son, a year of birth in the late 1830's or early 1840's would make much more sense...
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Post by emilylevine on Sept 3, 2009 7:23:03 GMT -5
Thanks grahamew and jeroen. I will check the original ms. The Spotted Eagle piece is one that I have only transcribed; I have not worked on annotated footnotes yet (when hopefully I would have found this discrepancy). I really appreciate your help.
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Post by kingsleybray on Sept 3, 2009 8:57:29 GMT -5
The famous Spotted Eagle was born about 1835 according to censuses, I wonder if Josephine Waggoner's birth date of 1859 refers to the son - the "Young Spotted Eagle" of Huffman's portrait. In the John G. Bourke diary for 1880 there is an entry about the visit of an Oglala delegation from Pine Ridge to Ft Keogh to meet the surrendered Canadian Lakotas. Bourke states that Young Man Afraid of His Horse and Spotted Eagle were brothers. That can't mean sons of the same two parents, but any other variation is possible. It could also mean adoptive hunka brothers I guess.
Kingsley
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Post by charlie on Sept 5, 2009 1:19:17 GMT -5
I have Spotted Eagle (Wambli Gleska) belonged to TATANKA CESLI (Bull Dung) band, not WAKAN band. Is this last a sub-band of the Tatanka Cesli? When and where Spotted Eagle died?
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 6, 2009 17:11:45 GMT -5
Grahame was the first who assumed that Spotted Eagle was standing in the back row in the group photo by Haynes in 1881. Today I found at ebay some good scans of the photo. Interestingly we can see at on the back that indeed Spotted Eagle was indentified by Haynes. Does anyone see Hump in the picture though?
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Post by charlie on Sept 23, 2009 8:53:18 GMT -5
Looking with attention, in the inferior margin of the photo there are the reference numbers (3 for Gall - 4 for Low Dog, etc.) but i don't see the number 1 (Hump); this could help us for his identification... Now i send to Dietmar a close-up of Hump to facilitate the comparison. To me, Hump could be the man at far left, standing, with the cross, but it's very had to say... And yes, also to me the man with the war club could be Spotted Eagle. This mean that the source used by Dietmar for the identification (in the old site LBHA - thread "Low Dog photo) was wrong...
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Post by Dietmar on Sept 23, 2009 14:28:21 GMT -5
Charlie asked me to post this photo of Hump for comparison:
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Post by naiches2 on Nov 9, 2009 17:03:03 GMT -5
Our delightful sellers from Cowan's auction again please us with excellent photos Here the description: S.J. MORROW STEREOVIEW OF PRISONERS AT FORT KEOGH, M.T. A portrait of Prisoners at Fort Keogh, M.T., with Morrow's Yankton, D.T. imprint, sitters potentially identified as Chief Spotted Eagle at left, Chief Rain-in-the-Face (?) at center, and Chief Hump (?) at right. In the autumn of 1880, a large group of Sioux exiles, led by Spotted Eagle of the Sans Arc, crossed into Montana and surrendered at Fort Keogh. Morrow made portraits of many of them.
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