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Post by grahamew on Dec 1, 2008 13:13:42 GMT -5
The Stevenson is clearly the companion piece to the one you posted earlier (on the other board?). I wonder what he was doing there.
I don't know if it's the same collection of drawings you mentioned above, but there is a collection by American Horse in the Western American section of the Beinecke Library, Yale
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Post by jinlian on Dec 1, 2008 14:34:43 GMT -5
Yes, the drawings of the Beinecke should more or less include all the collection of the AH ledger book (I've to get the description of the drawings included in the Landy papers to be sure nothing is missing - as mentioned earlier, the drawings were first sold at an auction in 1963) The other Stevenson picture was first posted by Henri on LBH and now it's in the AH on the main site: www.american-tribes.com/Lakota/BIO/AmericanHorse.htmBoth images were taken in a stop of a Wild West Show tour (1886-87), but I don't know if Stevenson took pictures of other members of the cast too.
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Post by grahamew on Dec 2, 2008 2:36:32 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by jinlian on Dec 16, 2008 5:32:53 GMT -5
Two pictures by Rinehart, Omaha 1898: American Horse and family; the young man sitting first from left is usually identified with "Joseph" American Horse, but I have good reason to believe he's in fact Ben American Horse. We have then Josie, AH's second wife and the young man standing, who should be identified with Charles (15 by then - age sounds right, even if face looks blurred). No clue about the young child, obviously a grandson - one of Tom American Horse (who was at Omaha too)'s children? Here's "Joseph" American Horse in an individual potrait, also by Rinehart: Comparing it with this picture of Carlisle's first football team (1894) where Ben American Horse is in the middle row, third from left: it seems to me that both are in fact photograph of the same individual. Note also the not-so-right looking nose (Ben American Horse had his nose broken in the first Carlisle-Yale football match). Here's an aged Ben American Horse, photographed in Washington D.C. 1951:
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Post by jinlian on Dec 16, 2008 10:16:37 GMT -5
Speaking of American Horse, I'm, say, 98% sure he's the individual featuring with two unknown women in this photo: but I'd like to hear your opinions too...
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Post by grahamew on Dec 16, 2008 13:07:25 GMT -5
Definitely. Same shirt as in the Rinehart photo.
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Post by jinlian on Jan 16, 2009 9:41:16 GMT -5
I've seen the tags and the hyperlinks in the American Horse bio on the main page: look great! Just want to add some additional info I've got on AH's children: Robert was in fact a nephew (brother's son); he was an Episcopalian catechist in the 1880s and was part of the 1891 (after the Wounded Knee massacre) delegation to Washington. I'm sure I've even seen him in a group photo of this delegation, I'll try to dig it out and post it. About "Samuel": in the census data regarding the American Horse family I've never seen this name. A comparison shows that this young man looks very much like "Thomas", an elder son - I wonder if they were the same person... (left: Thomas American Horse in a 1907 photo; right: "Samuel" in the famous Kasebier photo) Speaking of photos by Kasebier, I've found this beautiful one of Ben American Horse (see above; it's simply labelled "American Horse", but, since it's neither "Samuel"/Tom nor Charles and the only other son of American Horse to join Buffalo Bill's show was Benjamin...).
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Post by jinlian on Jan 16, 2009 9:54:44 GMT -5
Also, about American Horse's wives: I've created some panorama images: "Sleep": (right: a 1907 photo; left: a 1886 one [taken during a tour of the WWS] - even if no identification is given, it's pretty obvious that both pictures show the same woman) "Josie": (from left: first two pictures were taken at Omaha, 1898; third and fourth are details of two 1907 photographs) Unidentified wives: The 1877 one ("Red Spotted Calf"?) The 1889 one ("Hard Woman"?) An unidentified 1886 one (taken at El Reno, during a WWS tour - doesn't look like Sleep, to me at least): Another unidentified one (1907):
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Post by jinlian on Jan 20, 2009 13:48:07 GMT -5
About American Horse's children, here's some news reported in THE INDIAN HELPER:, January 30, 1891
Guy American Horse, returned June 19, '82; dead. Robert American Horse (as said above, a nephew), returned June 14, '87; is a catechist for the Episcopal church at an important station at one of the camps; he stands high; his opinions on matters concerning the interests of the tribe are regarded as those of a leader; he is a strong character in the church and among the young men; his influence is always for good. Maggie Stands Looking, returned Nov. 19, '84; is now Mrs. Belt; her husband kept store on Medicine Root Creek
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Post by jinlian on Jan 21, 2009 13:51:19 GMT -5
About Robert American Horse (who was also mentioned in Luther Standing Bear's memories): here's the photo of the 1891 delegation, where he stands second from left in the last row. Unfortunately, I haven't a better resolution version of this image.
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Post by jinlian on Feb 8, 2009 18:59:57 GMT -5
Loved this one:
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Post by Dietmar on Mar 7, 2009 17:40:16 GMT -5
American Horse by Miller
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Post by jinlian on Mar 8, 2009 3:51:19 GMT -5
Thank you Dietmar, this is a wonderfuk portrait. Didn't know Fred Miller photographed American Horse - was this taken at Crow agency? Looking at American Horse's face, I'd say he was in his middle sixties...and Fred Miller worked at Crow agency from 1898 to 1912.
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Post by jinlian on Mar 13, 2009 11:25:55 GMT -5
Ben American Horse, late 1920s
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Post by jinlian on Mar 13, 2009 11:37:23 GMT -5
Thomas American Horse and wife (late 1890s - early 1900s) - btw, it's obvious that they are the "Samuel American Horse & wife" in the famous Kasebier photos.
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