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Post by ouroboros on Feb 25, 2019 6:46:47 GMT -5
I am very grateful for your Help kingsleybray. Thank you very much.
It is an interesting information, because in the year 1846 the Mescaleros formed an alliance with the Comanches. Gomez played a major part in concluding this alliance. Four years earlier, in 1842 he - as it is clear from the mexican statement - has joined Mexicans to fight the Comanches.
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Post by ouroboros on Mar 1, 2019 2:40:22 GMT -5
we are also ancestors to chief gomez we live in texas our grandfather was refugio gomez his father was feliz gomez and then from there we don't know feliz father was after this is chief gomez so we are missing one generation I have found on the web an interesting information:
If the information is true, Chief Gómez had at least two sons - Verancia (Venancio) and the above mentioned Margarito. You may be a descendant of one of these two.
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Post by Guy on Mar 5, 2019 3:32:27 GMT -5
Of which Mescalero band Gomez was chief?
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Post by ouroboros on Mar 7, 2019 5:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by abelgomezvega on Apr 15, 2019 14:48:53 GMT -5
Hey All, My family has traced roots to chief Gomez being an ancestor to our family. I would like to connect with those who have traced their roots to him as well. My Gomez family resides here in AZ but a majority is in El Paso. |
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Post by abelgomezvega on Apr 15, 2019 14:54:01 GMT -5
hi bea torres we live in midland tx maybe we can figure this out here is my phone number 432 889 7089
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Post by Aileen on Jun 12, 2019 23:53:30 GMT -5
Hello Ashley, I'm part of the 'Gomez Clan' in El Paso, Texas. My great grandmother was Elena Gomez. Her father was Sabas Gomez. Are you related to our family off Gomez Road?
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Post by Aileen on Jun 13, 2019 0:08:29 GMT -5
I am Gomez El Paso Tx Apacge/Mescalero and Spsniard/Tigua my family settled in the upper Valley west of El Paso Torres is my married name. Facebook Bea Torres Hello Bea, how are you related to the Gomez here in El Paso? My father and Grandfather were raised off Gomez Road on the Westside. |
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Post by Aileen1 on Jun 13, 2019 0:36:01 GMT -5
My Gomez family resides in El Paso, Texas. We are direct descendants of Negoyani, also known as Chief Juan Gomez. I'm happy you have taken an interest and have gathered much information about him. I think you would benefit greatly if you would reach out to my Uncle, Gregory Gomez, who will answer all your questions: iiamericas.org/gregory-g-gomez-presidentwww.facebook.com/gregory.gomez.549 |
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Post by ouroboros on Jun 14, 2019 0:43:44 GMT -5
Many thanks Aileen for your kind words and suggestion. I am very interested in the possibility to speak on Negoyani with your uncle, President Gregory S. Gomez, so I have a question will it be possible if you could send me your e-mail adress? I will be very grateful for your answer.
With all best wishes
Ouroboros
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Post by Sergio on Jul 5, 2019 1:06:48 GMT -5
I have two questions on Chief Gomez. The first one - was he of Mexican descent as is implied in "bloody meridian"? The second has he been killed by Glanton's gang of scalphunters?
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Post by ouroboros on Jul 5, 2019 10:03:51 GMT -5
I have two questions on Chief Gomez. The first one - was he of Mexican descent as is implied in "bloody meridian"? The second has he been killed by Glanton's gang of scalphunters? The first one is a difficult question to answer. Some experts on the field of the Nde history say he was, e.g. Ralph A. Smith writes: “In the Forties, Gomez was a Mescalero chief who made his name one of the most terrifying words that Mexican ears ever heard in this area. He too had been a captured Mexican child” (Apache Plunder Trails Southward, 1831-1840, p. 27). But Smith’s info unfortunately lacks source quotation.
I have found two interesting infos on Gomez possible Mexican descent:
The one source is an information that says Gomez was educated in Mexico, which of course is not a proof that he was of Mexican descent. It is a letter by Capt. Randolph B. Marcy written 1849: “Being a numerous tribe, and commanded as they are by an ambitious chieftain by the name of “Gomez”, who has received a Spanish education in Mexico […]”.
The second is the journal of George W. B. Evans "Mexican Gold Trail: The Journal of a Forty-niner":
"Gomaz (sic!) the Appache (sic!) chief is said to be a Mexican, and they have offered the Americans a reward of $1000 for his scalp"
The second question - no, that is a false information. Glanton fought Gomez, and tried to kill him. But the info that Glanton’s band of murderers killed Negoyani is wrong. He was active as a leader of the southern Mescaleros in the year 1858 - i.e. 9 years after his alleged death. Interestingly, there was a rumour that Glanton indeed mortally wounded Gomez. I found an info on a website which is based on a newspaper from Baltimore:
We make the following extract from a letter dated San Antonio, November 15th: “Major Chevallie is said to have blown out his own brains in a fit of desperation. John Glanton, who succeeded Chevallie in his contract with the Government of the State of Chihuahua to kill Indians at $250 a scalp, is at El Paso, on the Mexican side. He recently crossed the Rio Grande, came 100 miles into the territory of Texas, and attacked a party of Apache Indians. In the fight the principal chief, Gomez, was mortally wounded and is since dead. The chief had always been friendly to the Americans. The Indians are said to be greatly enraged because of his death, and it is believed that they will now turn their forces against our people instead of the Mexicans.”
This info comes apparently from the Newspaper The Baltimore Sun, 27 December, 1849. Although I couldn’t check it by myself on the website “newspapers.com” because my country has no access to it: www.newspapers.com/newspage/365259065/
I found also an info that Americans have killed Negoyani’s father (The Mesilla Guard, 1851-61) but I must consult this book yet. |
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Post by Aracely Garcia Estrada on Aug 22, 2019 16:12:08 GMT -5
Mi madre es Gomez, ms familia de ella , era de San Pedro de conchos chih. En mi árbol llegué a 1751 que caso el ultimo Gomez que tengo documentado en santa Eulalia Chihuahua con María francisca Magdalena maldonado y Jacinto calletano Gomez tambien he platicado con Gregory Gomez creo que es una persona muy sabia me encanta hablar con el
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Post by Blue Duck on Aug 23, 2019 3:48:10 GMT -5
Ouroboros - did you contact the aforementioned President Gomez on the history of Negoyani
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Post by ouroboros on Aug 24, 2019 2:35:37 GMT -5
Yes, I did. I send an e-mail and even created an account on Facebook (and I must say, I don't like Facebook and any other social media) to send a message. But unfortunaltely I didn't receive any answer.
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