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Post by gunner on Jul 1, 2016 13:48:32 GMT -5
Hello! Very excited to see this site with so many knowledgeable people involved. In an attempt to become one of the knowledgeable, I am seeking information on a Native American named as "Chief Bad Horse, Sioux" on a photo taken at Stair Photography, South Dakota circa 1900.
I purchased a gun at auction last year advertised as a gun "possibly used by Native Americans because of the rawhide covering". I purchased the 1873 Winchester and noticed in addition to both the stock and barrel being covered, the lever on the gun was broken and the end of the remaining trigger guard was covered with a rawhide ball laced carefully over the jagged metal to allow the user to eject the spent casing and load a fresh round without cutting themselves.
Of course, just for the Heck of it I Googled "Indians holding Winchesters" and the very first picture to appear was the one mentioned above of Chief Bad Horse......holding a broken 1873 Winchester! If googled it will still be one of the first if not only picture of an American Indian holding a broken Winchester. After careful analysis it is my opinion the gun pictured is in my possession. I have found some very interesting artwork on the gun and have actually spoken to the curator at the Cody Museum, who suggested I locate a Sioux historian and try to get some information on the Indian in the picture.
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Post by gunner on Jul 1, 2016 13:57:00 GMT -5
Oh, in addition, the picture can be viewed on Pinterest by Googling "Indians Holding Winchesters" and the photo was taken in the Stair Photography Studio in South Dakota circa 1900 if my research is correct. Thanks!
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Post by witkola on Jul 3, 2016 17:36:33 GMT -5
Hello Gunner, The "1890 july 01 - ogalalla sioux" Census lists a "His Bad Horse, Male, 40, abt 1850, Northern Cheyenne (Cheyenne), Father, SD." Also listed below that entry are: "290 Buried, Female, 23, abt 1867, Northern Cheyenne (Cheyenne), Wife, SD" "291 Lone Bull, Male, 15, abt 1875, Northern Cheyenne (Cheyenne), Son, SD" "292 Black Elk, Male, 4, abt 1886, Northern Cheyenne (Cheyenne), Son, SD" "293 Wohhibi, Female, 1, abt 1889, Northern Cheyenne (Cheyenne), Daughter, SD" It's possible that this may be the person in the picture. If so, the Cheyenne language may provide further clues. "Hátavêsévé'háme na. Bad Horse, His Bad Horse. origin of family name Bad Horse." "Hátavêséve'haméhe na. (His) Bad Horse." "Hátavêsévé'hámêstse na. Bad Horse; His Bad Horse." *Note: "Wohhibi" is an interesting word that doesn't appear to be Cheyenne. Cheyenne does not have "Wo-". Also, the "-hibi" looks like Lakȟóta "hípi" or "-ȟpi". Or it could also be "Woȟpí" = "something suspended"; i.e., hóȟpi = "something round suspended" (a nest). Good luck!  |
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Post by grahamew on Jul 4, 2016 1:38:32 GMT -5
If it's any help, when that photo of Bad Horse first appeared on the Heritage Auction site, it was with a group of Lower Brule photos.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 4, 2016 9:35:34 GMT -5
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Post by gunner on Jul 5, 2016 13:04:47 GMT -5
Thanks to witkola and grahamew. I appreciate the information from both of you. Based on the information I found regarding the picture, that it was likely taken around 1900 and the youthful appearance of the young man in the picture, it would seem to match up with the 1874 birthdate. I will investigate both clues and appreciate the help you both have provided. embarking on this journey has enlightened me to plight of Native Americans and how hypocritical we are. If I could figure out how to do it, I would upload some pics on the site of the gun and the strange artwork hidden on the gun. pretty cool.
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