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Post by carlo on Oct 20, 2015 14:40:58 GMT -5
Hi all, Looking for information on an Oglala headman named Fast Horse. This name was very common among the Lakotas, but I believe the man I'm looking for was born ca. 1850, and that he is listed by Mike Stevens here, with photo: freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mikestevens/2010-p/p108.htm#i19480I also think he is the same Fast Horse that is mentioned in LAKOTA TALES AND TEXTS, p.270, in a story by Blue Horse Owner. From this story it becomes clear that he stayed in Canada after the Great Sioux War. Any additional information, on his band affiliation, when he fled to Canada, when he returned/surrendered, his warrior life, etc. would be greatly appreciated! Carlo
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 20, 2015 15:16:49 GMT -5
Hi Carlo,
I really like Mike Steven´s site, but the page linked above shows Last Horse, not Fast Horse, photographed by Heyn & Matzen in 1899.
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 20, 2015 15:29:35 GMT -5
Here´s Fast Horse photographed by Julia Tuell:
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Post by carlo on Oct 20, 2015 16:37:17 GMT -5
Thanks Dietmar, for catching the error on the site and posting the correct photo of Fast Horse.
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Post by gregor on Oct 22, 2015 8:28:15 GMT -5
As already said before, Fast Horse was a common Name. We have Oglala, Hunkpapa and Mnikowozu Fast Horses.
According to Sitting Bulls nephew White Bull (see Vestals "Warpath"), was one Fast Horse a halfbrother of Makes Room.
Then there was a Pine Ridge Policemen "Fast Horse" (Kiyaksa,Little Wound's band ), who was about 1880 thirty-four years old and served for 10 years.
In "The Diaries of John Gregory Bourke Volume 2" we find an Oglala Fast Horse, who accompanied Gen. Crook's Powder River Expedition in 1876 as a Scout (maybe the later policeman?).
In the period 1886 - 1945 we find an Amos Fast Horse, who was a catechist for the Holy Rosary or St. Francis Mission. Further there was a Mary Fast Horse (1888 - 1970) who was known as a Lakota Herbalist.
The Oglala Fast Horse Family has been living in the Fast Horse Creek - Wounded Knee Creek area.
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Post by grahamew on Oct 22, 2015 10:55:22 GMT -5
The Pine Ridge policeman/scout?
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Post by kakarns on Oct 24, 2015 7:13:17 GMT -5
Carlo, I found some Census Records which, may list the Fast Horse that you are looking for. Also, found another Pine Ridge Census (1937) which, on the pg. that I have, lists 16 Fast Horse family members.
*1887* Census pg. 202
Fast Horse - Father - M - 36 (b. abt. 1851) White Whiteman - Wife - F - 34 Pretty - Daughter - F - 9 Her Door - " - F - 7 Takes Horses - Son - M - 5 Afraid of holy - " M - 3
*1888* Census
Fast Horse - 37 White Man - 35 (also, all children listed, same as above)
*1890* Pine Ridge Census - M.R. Kunhinyan
Fast Horse - father - M - 39 White Man - wife - F - 36 (3 of the 4 children with them. Son, Afraid of holy, not with them.)
Refer.: LaDeanne Miller files
Hope this helps. kakarns
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Post by kingsleybray on Oct 24, 2015 11:12:04 GMT -5
Fast Horse is first namechecked in the Red Cloud Agency census prepared by Agt JJ Saville in April 1874. He is noted as a family head in Little Wound's personal band of "Kiocse" (Kiyuksa, Kiyaksa).
In February 1877 the same man is listed as a family head in Little Wound's Band of "Cut Off Sioux" - again the Kiyuksa band is meant. Living in the same tipi is another adult male, The Bull.
Fast Horse "No. 1" is again rated in the 1879 Pine Ridge Ration Roll under Little Wound's Band.
And in an undated document I found in Kansas City National Archives (some kind of rationing document from about 1880-81) he appears again as a family head within the "Kiyaksa" band. The Kunhinyan band of the 1890 census is another name for the Kiyuksa (or a sub-band name etc.)
So if nothing else Fast Horse is very consistently identified with the Kiyuksa band!
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Post by carlo on Oct 25, 2015 3:16:32 GMT -5
Thank you all, very helpful details.
I am inclined to believe 'our' Fast Horse is not the same as the Indian Police Fast Horse, as he would not have been in Canada during/after the Great Sioux War. I do believe the Indian Policeman is the same Fast Horse noted by Kingsley as a Kiyuksa Oglala, given the Feb 1877 date of the RC census. Mike Stevens lists two Oglalas named Fast Horse, both born ca. 1850/1851. The one Kakarns found is the second Fast Horse (see link in my original post), married to a woman named White Man. This would also be the same Fast Horse listed in the 1874, 1877 RC census, as part of the Kuinyan Kiyuksa (Little Wound's band). In 1877 many of these Oglalas became Indian Scouts and eventually Indian Police at RC Agency.
The first Fast Horse listed by Stevens, the one I'm looking for, was married to Whirlwind, and would have been another man with the same name and approx. birth year. Search continues!
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Post by Dietmar on Feb 8, 2019 7:41:35 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on Feb 8, 2019 11:25:18 GMT -5
This is also a portrait of Fast Horse, apparently taken years after the previous portraits we had. Fast Horse was among the first engaged in the Indian Police force at Pine Ridge. He rose in the officers´ ranks and became one of the most important Akocita leaders alongside George Sword and Standing Soldier. Later on he also served as a judge.
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