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Post by grigoryev on Sept 29, 2015 14:19:26 GMT -5
Hello I propose to gather information about this group. Dear Kingsley have mentioned it in the distribution of the northern Oglala 1868, in particular bad Faces (Lodge 80):
Chasing Cat (Shikshichela) 15 lodges
Is there still any information about this tiyospaye?
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Post by grigoryev on Sept 29, 2015 14:39:33 GMT -5
Considering the closest connection with the different bands minikonzhu, is this group came because of ancestral band, the Hohwozhu, where there is a band of the same name?
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eric
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Post by eric on Nov 24, 2015 11:46:53 GMT -5
Grigoryev,
In Siouan sociology, Dorsey mentions a band by this name with the yanktonai (p.9), also as a ita zipko band (p.13) also as a mniconjou band (p.14)and as a hunkpapa band (p.15).
The name means something like "bad ones of all sorts"......maybe they were people unwanted by their own bands due to political oposition to the existing hierarchy. In chosing to move to other bands, they (being the outsiders) could band up and form their own political unit.
just a theory of course....
Eric
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