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Post by grahamew on May 25, 2015 13:35:34 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on May 26, 2015 4:31:29 GMT -5
Wonderful picture, Grahame.
Ephriam has to see this. Is it also a pic from Cowan? No comment on the photographer, I guess.
Hard to say anything about identities. The man second from left in the 2nd scan has a remarkable chin. But without seeing his upper face it´s impossible.
I would say there are men with blankets rather than women in the last scan.
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Post by grahamew on May 26, 2015 6:45:37 GMT -5
It was on the Denver Public Library site. I may just be romanticising the scene, but those in blankets on the porch look rather less accommodationist than those in the foreground.
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Post by ephriam on May 27, 2015 8:13:56 GMT -5
Yes, I think this photograph of the Post Trader's store was taken by Private Howard. It has been published a number of times now, generally without any reference to the photographer. I am traveling and do not have my research files with me, but as I recall, the original image does not have Howard's marking on it, but I think it is listed in Howard's catalog of views. There were a number of photographers at the Red Cloud Agency/Camp Robinson in 1877 so it is possible that it was taken by someone else. Until a second example of this image turns up with markings, we cannot know with certainty.
The Denver Public Library also has an earlier photograph of the Post Trader's store, taken circa. 1875. There was a photographer named Mr. Thomas who came to Camp Robinson at the time of the treaty council. Would love to find more out about him.
The Library also has a number of other Howard images, including one of Crow Butte. The Huntington Library has recently also put up its collection of Howard images as well.
Cheers!
ephriam
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Post by grahamew on May 28, 2015 4:56:08 GMT -5
Thanks, Ephriam. The Huntington is also a wonderful source for pictures from The Grand Council in 1875
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Post by brodo on Dec 31, 2018 20:08:42 GMT -5
Is the man with chin He-Dog? A long shot yes but in some pix He'Dog's jaw is set very similar.  |
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Post by gregor on Jan 1, 2019 11:32:22 GMT -5
Yes, Hed Dog (Oglala), friend of Crazy Horse. Not to be confused with the Brulé He Dog.
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Post by grahamew on Jan 1, 2019 12:08:43 GMT -5
Sorry, I don't see He Dog among the men with the hats. I wonder if they're scouts who, along with the soldiers, have 'brought in' the men sitting on the porch.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 15, 2020 6:05:37 GMT -5
Just re-posted the images here.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 15, 2020 9:13:17 GMT -5
Not sure whether this helps:  |
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Post by kingsleybray on Jul 15, 2020 16:26:44 GMT -5
is the man seated 4th from left not the same man in the picture of Northern Arapaho chiefs and headmen with V T McGillycuddy, there seated second from right?
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Post by Dietmar on Jul 15, 2020 16:35:38 GMT -5
Wow Kingsley, I think you nailed it!  Unfortunately I have no ID for him. |
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Post by grahamew on Jul 15, 2020 16:42:49 GMT -5
Excellent!
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Post by Dietmar on Jul 15, 2020 17:19:57 GMT -5
The question is, are the others with him also Arapahoes?
Note that the man in both pictures holds a quirt, so possibly both photos were taken at the same occasion.
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Post by Dietmar on Jul 16, 2020 5:00:45 GMT -5
Here´s the picture of Arapaho leaders at Fort Robinson in 1877:  |
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