Post by gregor on Apr 29, 2015 9:13:28 GMT -5
In pursuit of the discussions over the past weeks and months, I felt that it would be useful to go deeper into the topic of Winter Counts and Ledger Art. I believe that first of all the origin, the supposed author and the circumstances of the development of winter counts and ledger books have to be reviewed very accurately. Only then it can be decided what credibility can be attributed to the depicted events.
First we have to see what we have: a Winter Count or a Ledger Book. Both types of documents provide knowledge (either a general event to denote a year or personal events in the life of an individual).
Some scholars believe that the majority of preserved Winter Counts are copies of copies, since the originals are either perished or were buried with the creators. We may have to deal with copies that have been copied by family members of the original creator. With the death of the original author the importance of single pictograms and individual years may be lost.
As long as the original author has recorded events, which he has seen himself or that have taken place during his lifetime, we can probably expect a high level of reliability. The situation is different with copied events - in my opinion. We have to look (and do so) for other sources or records in other winter counts.
Winter counts are mnemonic devices that only make sense in the context of an oral tradition. But this oral tradition must be plausible and reliable. Furthermore, it should be noted that from the reservation times Winter Counts (and also Ledger Books) were sold as souvenirs or craftsmanship. And I suppose some of these works are as accurate and reliable as todays “Original Egyptian Papyri”.
Ledger Books differ from winter counts. They usually show biographical events of a single person. They often show events in loose sequence but not in chronological order. Here we have also to examine whether they are copies. Or whether some pictures were even falsified (such as the Ledger of the Cheyenne Black Horse) to reinterpret events.
I would like to discuss some key Winter Counts and scrutinize them a little bit deeper.
Maybe we can start with Brown Hat / Battiste Good and his son High Hawk and discuss the following questions and answer some:
- Who was Battiste Good? What was his family?
- Were there other winter count keepers in his family before him?
- Which tiyospaye - under which leaders – did he belong to?
- What position did he have among the Brulé? How was his reputation?
- Since when did he live on a reservation?
- Did he join a Christian religion? Did he learn to write?
Thanks to all who participate in the discussion!
Toksha ake
Gregor
First we have to see what we have: a Winter Count or a Ledger Book. Both types of documents provide knowledge (either a general event to denote a year or personal events in the life of an individual).
Some scholars believe that the majority of preserved Winter Counts are copies of copies, since the originals are either perished or were buried with the creators. We may have to deal with copies that have been copied by family members of the original creator. With the death of the original author the importance of single pictograms and individual years may be lost.
As long as the original author has recorded events, which he has seen himself or that have taken place during his lifetime, we can probably expect a high level of reliability. The situation is different with copied events - in my opinion. We have to look (and do so) for other sources or records in other winter counts.
Winter counts are mnemonic devices that only make sense in the context of an oral tradition. But this oral tradition must be plausible and reliable. Furthermore, it should be noted that from the reservation times Winter Counts (and also Ledger Books) were sold as souvenirs or craftsmanship. And I suppose some of these works are as accurate and reliable as todays “Original Egyptian Papyri”.
Ledger Books differ from winter counts. They usually show biographical events of a single person. They often show events in loose sequence but not in chronological order. Here we have also to examine whether they are copies. Or whether some pictures were even falsified (such as the Ledger of the Cheyenne Black Horse) to reinterpret events.
I would like to discuss some key Winter Counts and scrutinize them a little bit deeper.
Maybe we can start with Brown Hat / Battiste Good and his son High Hawk and discuss the following questions and answer some:
- Who was Battiste Good? What was his family?
- Were there other winter count keepers in his family before him?
- Which tiyospaye - under which leaders – did he belong to?
- What position did he have among the Brulé? How was his reputation?
- Since when did he live on a reservation?
- Did he join a Christian religion? Did he learn to write?
Thanks to all who participate in the discussion!
Toksha ake
Gregor