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Post by Dietmar on Jan 5, 2015 7:36:32 GMT -5
I withdraw my statement about Two Bears in the Fort Sully photo. These kind of vests seem popular about that time as you see in this Morrow photo of a group with Two Bears standing left: Regarding Grahame´s picture with whom I think is Struck-By-The-Ree: The man I also thought resembles Good Hawk possibly just has a similar haircut. All other aspects let me assume the picture was taken much earlier than 1872.
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Post by shan on Jan 5, 2015 12:52:23 GMT -5
Hi,
this is a long shot, but maybe Dietmar can help me. I seem to have mislaid Rod Thomas's email address { he wrote a very good book on the ledger art concerning the battle of the little Big Horn,] I would like to get in touch with him on matters concerning that book, so if anyone knows it I'd be grateful, or, if your out there yourself Rod, could you email me at david@shanart.com, many thanks Shan
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Post by rodthomas on Jan 15, 2015 11:38:02 GMT -5
Hi David...great to hear from you...will get an email off momentarily...
REgards, Rod...
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Post by ephriam on Jan 25, 2015 17:28:14 GMT -5
Byron H. Gurnsey also took a number of Indian portraits. The best known are dated 1870 and include the various delegations passing through Sioux City bound for or returning from Washington D.C., including that of Spotted Tail. Most of the images show a fancy baseboard along the wall, several rough woven mats on the floor, and sometimes include a fake column, a drapery and several pieces of furniture. However, there is a second set of photographs attributed to Gurnsey in which the background is very different. The baseboard is smaller and less elegant, the floor is covered with a square patterned covering of some type and there is minimal studio furniture. I suspect that these are earlier portraits, perhaps circa. 1866. So far, I have found 9 Winnebago portraits in close sequence, suggesting that they may have passed through the studio as a group. This includes the prominent leader Grey Wolf, the brother of Little Priest who died as an Indian scout fighting Lakota in 1866. Any ideas about this group? A group of Winnebago passed through Yankton and Sioux City in early May 1865, part of the transfer from Crow Creek Agency down to the Omaha reservation. I have not been able to find any names yet to confirm who was in this group. And maybe there were other groups that were also sent down in 1866 or 1867? Here are the numbered portraits I have been able to find so far: 500. White Wood, Winnebago.502. Standing Buffalo503. [Indian Woman]504. Grey Wolf507. Standing Buffalo508. Gray Wolf510. [Indian woman]511. [Winnebago Man]514. [Winnebago Women]A few other isolated images also date from this period, such as this early portrait of the Arikara headman Rushing Bear:
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 26, 2015 12:35:18 GMT -5
Ephriam, here are some more Winnebago portraits by Gurnsey: Standing Buffalo (center) San-Jan-Mon-E-Kah aka Henry Rice Hill (son of Chief Little Hill) & Benjamin Bearskin unidentified The Crane Woman? That Walks Behind
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 26, 2015 13:20:14 GMT -5
just wondering if the picture of the unidentified man is a Hamilton?
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Post by ephriam on Jan 26, 2015 20:35:24 GMT -5
The first two images you posted are by Gurnsey but are taken later. Notice the change in the studio background that matches that of the 1870 delegation images. The third photograph of the unknown man I have in my files as a Hamilton.
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Post by Dietmar on Jan 27, 2015 8:10:48 GMT -5
The last two pictures are from a series of Gurnsey photos offered by Cowan´s Auctions: cowanauctions.com/auctions/item.aspx?id=71029In the meantime I searched for newspaper articles on Winnebago delegations around 1865... but unfortunately found almost nothing.
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Post by grahamew on Jan 27, 2015 14:13:06 GMT -5
Is this one? Was it Hamilton or Gurnsey who photographed the Winnebago Indians around their camp?
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Post by ephriam on Jan 29, 2015 8:27:03 GMT -5
Graham:
Thanks! It looks like another in that series.
The other three stereoviews were published by Hamilton, but he also reprinted a number of Gurnsey's views under his own name after he bought out his competitor's studio. Paula Fleming note that Gurnsey went to the Winnebago reservation in 1870 and I think I have a reference somewhere that Hamilton went about 1870-71 (I will check). It will take some effort to sort out these two overlapping photographer's work.
ephriam
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 22, 2015 16:44:03 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Apr 23, 2015 1:28:55 GMT -5
Isn't this a council between (or involving) Winnebago and Omaha Indians? Do you see the people up in the tree?!
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 23, 2015 6:53:00 GMT -5
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Post by grahamew on Apr 23, 2015 11:54:54 GMT -5
I think this is another from the same series - it;s in Handbook of North American Indians Volume 13 Part 2 as 'Council with Yanktons'(!). The suggestion is that it's a Morrow from the 1870s.
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 25, 2015 5:00:38 GMT -5
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