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Post by Dietmar on Oct 25, 2014 5:22:53 GMT -5
I ´ve been asked to create a new thread for Shot In The Eye. Here it is These portraits were provided by Henri: Shot In The Eye 1910 This is another picture posted by Grahame earlier: Shot In The Eye by Frank Rinehart
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Post by gregor on Oct 29, 2014 12:24:37 GMT -5
Thanx Dietmar, it would be nice to collect some data about Shot-In-The-Eye. There is only little known about the man. Here is what I have:
Shot-In-the-Eye Ista Ogna Opi (abt. 1835 – aft. 1910)
There is little known about this Oglala. Shot-In-the-Eye was most likely wounded in battle rather than by accident as the use of the word "shot" indicates. According to posts on the internet he was an Oglala Sioux who fought in the Battle of the Little Bighorn in 1876, where he was wounded and lost most likely his left eye
According to the New York Times of Sept. 18, 1903 (“Indians At The Garden”) he was member of “Colonel Cummins’ Wild West, Indian Congress and Rough Riders of the World” by- Frederick T. Cummins. The show created a special presentation of the “Custer Massacre at Little Bighorn”.
On January 17, 1910 he was allotted land and the papers give another Name (“White Mountain”). This name was corroborated by Mike Stevens’s Tiyospaye website and also used by Cowan's Auctions.
He was married to Woodpecker (Ske-luta-win, 1838 - ?) about 1858.
Married to Red Bird (Zintkala Luta Win, 1838 -?) aka Susie Shot-In-the-Eye, noted for walking back from Canada to be with her people and for being one of the most recognized Women Warriors, having fought in the Battle at Greasy Grass. She fought valiantly alongside her sons Rock, Lone Hill and High Wolf along with her husband Shot-In-the-Eye.
Question: Are Woodpecker and Red Bird the same person?
Oglala Lakota Activist & Writer Dana Lone Hill (Oyate Wačhíŋy Aŋpi) is a great granddaughter of Shot-In-the-Eye. She is a writer for the Lakota Country Times and the Guardian. In her book “Pointing With Lips” she covers a week in the life of a “Rez Chick” in Pine Ridge.
So, that's all. Maybe friends from Pine Ridge can add some information. Would be great.
Toksha from Germany, Gregor
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Post by kakarns on Jan 16, 2015 16:14:43 GMT -5
Today...is a good day for me. By finding a document that contains allot of combined information for me with several links to many people. Which, by sharing here will help others as well. From the document: INDIAN CENSUS ROLL - Census of the Pine Ridge reservation of the Pine Ridge jurisdiction, as of April 1, 1934 taken by James H. McGregor, Superintendent. - Page 54." Some content contained in this document: Bitters, Patrick - M - b. 1872 - age 62 - Oglala - Full blood - Married - Head " , (Black Bear) Emma - F - b. 1888 - age 46 - Oglala - Full blood - Married - Wife [NOTE]: While reviewing this information, I noticed a "type-o"/error in Emma Black Bear's birth date. Corrected on 3/24/15 birth year was 1888 not, 1908. Listed directly below Patrick and Emma: Black Bear, #2 - M - b. 1860 - age 74 - Oglala - Full blood - Married - Head Black Bear, Emma - b. 1865 - age 69 - Oglala - Full blood - Married - Wife Black Bear, Alfred - b. 1884 - age 50 - Oglala - Full blood - Married - Head [NOTE]: Unfortunately, this page ends here. I wish I had more of the pages before and after this one. More information on Patrick Bitters from Mike S. Website: Also known as Patrick Woman's Back.4,2,3 The nationality of Patrick Bitters was Oglala Lakota Sioux.2,3,4,1 Patrick Bitters was born in 1871.1 He was the son of (?) Woman's Back and Lizzie (?).1,2,3 Another source states that his was also listed with a birthdate in 1872.2,3 He was listed as "son" and residing in the home of (?) Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on June 30, 1894 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA.2 He was listed as "son" and residing in the home of (?) Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on June 30, 1895 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA.3 He was listed as "son" and residing in the home of (?) Woman's Back on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken in 1896 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, South Dakota, USA.4 Patrick Bitters married Mary (?) circa 1901.1 Patrick was listed as the "Head of the Household" on the US Indian Census Rolls at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Pass Creek District, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA, on June 30, 1904.1 More Information on Patrick Bitters from the "INHERITED INTERESTS IN ESTATES" of; SPOTTED TAIL WIDOW #2" - (Black Lodge by kakarns): R.S. 2042 - Patrick Bitter, son of sub. dec. half-sis.Elbow or White Mountain Additional Comments: For many years, I've been searching for a clue that would lead me to the "right" White Mountain listed in the Black Lodge estate papers. To me, this is pretty good proof it was "Shot In The Eye" (aka), "White Mountain". Although this is still work in progress, a big gap was filled today. Question: Would anyone have any information on "Woman's Back" and "Elbow" REFER: Census- LaDeane Miller Thanks, kakarns
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Post by kakarns on Jan 17, 2015 6:05:45 GMT -5
"[NOTE]: Unfortunately, this page ends here. I wish I had more of the pages before and after this one."Posted 1/16/15 Read more: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/2173/shot-eye#ixzz3P4faxQlgIn reference to the above statement: I did not look far enough yesterday and did find more documents on the Black Bear lineage. Here is some information found in the 1886, 1887, 1888 and 1894 Census concerning; "Shot In The Eye" (aka), "White Mountain": 1886 Shot in the Eye - Father - M - 50 Red Bird - Wife - F - 50 Lives in Sight - daughter - F - 27 Jennie - daughter - F - 8 Wounded - son - M - 5 Comes in front - son - M - 4 Looks at Horse - Gr. daughter - F - 1 1887 Shot in the eye - Father - M - 51 Red bird - Wife - F - 50 Many Red hair - daughter - F - 9 Saw Her Horses - daughter - F - 2 1888 Shot in the Eye - Father - M - 54 (possible error on age) Red Bird - Wife - F - 51 Many Red Hair - daughter - F - 10 Saw Her Horses - daughter - F - 3 1894 Black Bear - M - Fath - 34 Emma Black Bear - Wife - 29 Jos " " - M - son - 8 Brings Pickett (sp.?) Horses - M - son - 2yr.5mth. Shot In The Eye - M - Fath - 58 REFER: Census - LaDeane Miller kakarns
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Post by kingsleybray on Jan 17, 2015 6:14:12 GMT -5
were was this family living, in which district at Pine Ridge?
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Post by kakarns on Jan 17, 2015 6:20:33 GMT -5
When reviewing the Allotment map, I have noticed that the following Black Bear's listed below, received some of their Allotments directly east (within a 1/2 mile to 1 mile) of the Charging Eagle (my G.G.G. Grandfather)allotment.
Leo Black Bear, Dora Black Bear, Lizzie Black Bear, Esther Black Bear.
Interesting.
kakarns
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Post by kakarns on Jan 17, 2015 6:30:16 GMT -5
Kingsley,
Sorry, I miss read your message. I will check and see if, I can find that info..
If you will notice in my above post made on 1/16/15, Patrick Bitters did apparently have a allotment on the Rosebud. (# 2042)
kakarns
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Post by kakarns on Jan 17, 2015 6:48:22 GMT -5
Kingsley,
Per what district: Unfortunately, the Census pages that I have, do not list that information. However, Mike Stevens information on Shot In The Eye states, Porcupine - Shannon Co. Also, the same for his son Black Bear.
kakarns
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Post by kakarns on Jan 17, 2015 6:52:47 GMT -5
gregor,
I could be wrong but, I do not think that Red Bird and Susie Shot In The Eye were one in the same person. Below is some information LaDeane Miller shared with me a few years ago while, I was working on the Shot In The Eye lineage.
Notes for Shot In The Eye (---) Jun 1886 Pine Ridge pg 217 1887 Pine Ridge pg 192 30 Jun 1888 Pine Ridge pg 289 with Red Bird 1 Jul 1890 Pine Ridge pg 20 with Red Bird 1 Jul 1892 Pine Ridge pg 429 grfather of Wounded Boy 1893 Pine Ridge pg 390 alone 1 Jul 1894 Pine Ridge pg 177 with son Black Bear 30 Jun 1895 Pine Ridge pg 420 alone 30 Jun 1896 Pine Ridge pg 36 with Susan 30 Jun 1897 Pine Ridge pg 192 with Susan 30 Jun 1898 Pine Ridge pg 426 with Suans
REFER: LaDeane Miller kakarns
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Post by kakarns on Jan 19, 2015 19:42:23 GMT -5
I am considering the following: "Elbow/White Mountain" may have been married to, "Shot In The Eye/White Mountain". Patrick Bitters was only one of the children of Elbow/White Mountain listed in the Spotted Tail Widow #2 (Her Black Lodge) estate. Or, perhaps Elbow was another name for one of the known wives of, Shot In The Eye/White Mountain. Please visit this link to another thread which, lists the other children of Elbow/White Mountain.: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/1645/spotted-tail-widow-2?page=1&scrollTo=13642kakarns
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Post by kakarns on Jan 25, 2015 9:39:58 GMT -5
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Post by kakarns on Feb 1, 2015 9:10:49 GMT -5
Since, I did find some info. on Womans Back, I decided to create a new thread for him.
Thanks, kakarns
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Post by kakarns on Feb 1, 2015 9:28:32 GMT -5
For more information on; Shot In The Eye. Please, check out the book: "Mi' Taku' Ye - Oyasin": "Letters from Wounded Knee", by; Barbara Nixon
The book shows some photos and list some family members including, information from; Smithsonian Institute in Washington, DC.
Something stated by the author is this: Shot In The Eye had a daughter named; Susie Shot In The Eye.
Thanks, kakarns
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Post by Dietmar on Apr 13, 2015 10:48:16 GMT -5
Another photo of Shot In The Eye provided by kkarns: Thank you Kim!
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Post by waganari on Jan 23, 2020 8:15:38 GMT -5
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