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Post by Dietmar on Dec 11, 2014 10:44:27 GMT -5
On the back of the White Deer photo card are some hand-written notes:
Photo by A.H. Bauman & Fitzsimmons Crawford Neb.
United States Scout
White Deer Northern Cheyenne [hand-written correction: Brule Sioux] 1 of Little Chief´s camp at Pine Ridge Possibly served at Ft. Robinson His rifle is a 1873 Springfield Trapdoor Carbine with Model Buffington Sight.
White Deer was registered with Wahzaza band at Spotted Tail Agenca in 1877 Enlisted as a scout Nov 27, 1890 at Pine Ridge Agency during Ghost Dance Trouble Discharged as a sergeant May 26, 1891
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Post by grahamew on Dec 11, 2014 11:31:34 GMT -5
Is this Last Horse? It's a Moreledge and labelled Fast Horse, but I wonder if it's mislabelled. While the man you suspect is Last Horse in the group photo doesn't have stripes, the Last Horse in the list IS a corporal - and there's no Fast Horse on the list...
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Post by Dietmar on Dec 11, 2014 13:09:27 GMT -5
No, I have a clearer version of this photo and he´s surely not Last Horse.
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Post by Dietmar on Dec 11, 2014 16:42:40 GMT -5
Btw, Last Horse is one of the dancers filmed in these clips of 1894 when he was part of Buffalo Bill´s Show:
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Post by kingsleybray on Dec 12, 2014 4:12:23 GMT -5
Samuel Last Horse belonged to an important Kiyaksa band family. According to the 1890 Census he was 41 years old, born c. 1848-49. His wife Saddle (age 31) and their two daughters, Red feet and Kills wood (both age 8 - twins?) lived in the same household. Also resident with them was a son, also baptised as Samuel and age 20 - presumably by a different mother.
Wilmer Mesteth mentioned to me last month that Last Horse was an important transmitter of Sun Dance traditions in the long period btw the government ban of the ceremony in 1883, and the beginning of its public revival in the late 1920s.
Must have been an interesting individual.
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Post by goodspirit on Oct 15, 2015 15:46:50 GMT -5
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 16, 2015 8:10:21 GMT -5
Thank you goodspirit! This is another picture of Taylor´s scouts. Some IDs are obvious, but I refrained from putting more names into the picture because it´s kind of guesswork.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 11:27:00 GMT -5
For me, two names stick out on that muster roll. The first name is “Frank Conroy, Private, Dec. 24, 1890.” freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mikestevens/2010-p/p83.htm#i36145Frank Conroy was the son of Eulala Conroy (Ulala Smoke)(Spotted Horse) and Captain Thomas Conroy, the brother of John Conroy, Mary Conroy, Unknown Conroy, and the grandson of Smoke. The second is “Peter Shangreau, Private, Jan. 12, 1891.” freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mikestevens/2010-p/p283.htm#i16436It is likely that Peter Shangreau was the son of Mary Shangreau (Mary Smoke)(Breath Wind) and Jewel Shangreau, the brother of Julian Louis Shangreau, John Shangreau, William Shangreau, and the grandson of Smoke. It is interesting to note that John Conroy turned out to be an “unforeseen consequence” of Smoke’s “Wagluhe experiment” at Fort Laramie. Tom Conroy took the children from their mother when he and his wife separated and then abandoned them. They were subsequently raised Lakota. John Conroy (American Man)(Wasicula) was upwards of eighteen years of age at the time of Greasy Grass, and, according to Frederic C. Wagner III, was “One of 12 Sioux sharpshooters who prevented Reno’s troopers from going to water.” books.google.com/books?id=mGpECwAAQBAJ&pg=PA123&lpg=PA123&dq=frank+conroy+lakota&source=bl&ots=zmwuYHa8Ti&sig=SWnSbtsB3mrGwo60o3HQEhF0OKI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwil-NyyganSAhUJhlQKHe16AXcQ6AEIXzAP#v=onepage&q=frank%20conroy%20lakota&f=false
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 11:40:57 GMT -5
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Post by mary32 on May 7, 2017 21:33:28 GMT -5
While scanning several photos from an old album, to put into a Family History Book for my dad, I came across this image. It looks like a book-mark, about 2" wide by about 5" long. On the back is written "Leon White Bird." Could this be the same man discussed earlier in this post?
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Post by Dietmar on May 10, 2017 8:38:06 GMT -5
Yes, mary32,
Leon White Bird is listed among Lieut. Taylor´s scouts. Thank you for posting his portrait.
I assume he is a son of Spleen band leader White Bird, isn´t he?
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Post by juan on Dec 31, 2017 18:33:57 GMT -5
I see the same thing happened to all native tribes backstabing treashery and jealousy.
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Post by kingsleybray on Jan 1, 2018 5:51:15 GMT -5
juan, you really have to try and understand reality was and is more complex than your black and white view.
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Post by gregor on Jan 1, 2018 8:59:35 GMT -5
A HAPPY NEW YEAR to everybody. On the Muster roll is a scout MAN ABOVE (see date Jan. 12, 1891). Is this Jack Red Cloud? He was also known as man Above.
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