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Post by bwolfnecklace on Feb 7, 2014 14:28:14 GMT -5
I am sorry but websites are not always right. i should tell you a little about me. I am member of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe I keep the history of my tribe. I am LaDonna Brave Bull I am the great great great granddaughter of Red Thunder Red Thunder was Rain-the-Face's brother Rain in the face's Father was Chief Bear face His brothers were Bear Face II, Chief Iron Horn, Little Bear and Shaved Head. Rain-in-The-face father was a chief and his brother.
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Post by ladonna on Mar 20, 2014 15:57:20 GMT -5
I have been going though site on Rain in The face its no wonder there is so much misinformation out there. how do you change this history that is on the internet?
Wikipedia.org "states Rain in The Face was "Dakota" his mother was related to the chief inkpaduta"? Findagrave.com " Buried near Aberdeen South Dakota" Encyclopedia.com "He did not inherit the title of Chief because he had no linage on either side of Chiefs" Custerlives.com "He did not inherit the title of Chief because he had no linage on either side of Chiefs" jessetreasure.com " actually his dakota name means His face is like a storm"
Rain in The face's father was Chief Bear Face (Hunkapapa-Lakota) , his mother was Smoky Woman (Blackfeet Lakota) He had two brother who were Chiefs Iron Horn and Bear Face II, His cousin Running Antelope was Chief, Rain in the Face was Lakota
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Post by ladonna on Mar 25, 2014 12:27:23 GMT -5
ITEOMAGAJU- RAIN IN THE FACE b. 1835 d. 1905 The family was a leading Tiwahe within the Che-okhba band. The band occupied the place in the Hunkpapa camp-circle next to the Sore-Backs band. Rain In The face was the fourth son of Chief Mato Ite-(Bear Face) Hunkpapa and SotaWinyan-(Smoke Woman) Shihasapa. Ite Omega Ju-Rain in the Face “It Rains on His Face” was born near the fork of the Cheyenne River in 1835. His older brothers were Wakinyan Luta-(Red Thunder), Hemaza-(Iron Horn) and Mato Ite-(Bear Face II), His younger brothers were Pakakoga-(Shaved Head) and Mato Cigala (Little Bear). His ancestors, TaMakoche belong to the group Oyuhpe of the Ogalala who in 1750 were given the right to camp at the horn of the hoop. TaMakoche fought against the Omaha and Ponce about 1752 where 100 Omaha were killed according to High Hawk Winter Count. TaMackoche was dismayed when the chief council: Big Belly” usurped his prerogative and oversaw redistribution of the loot from the Omaha. Tamakoche gathered his camp circle of his band and other young men and their families joined him and left the main group of Oglalas. This group under TaMakoche traveled northward along the Missouri River and James River. TaMakoche became known as headmen in his own right and his group became known as the Hunkpapa, the seventh band of the Lakotas. This new group that broke off from the Oglala became known as the Hunkpapa (Camp at the End of the Horn) the Shiyo Band soon join the new group along with other tiyoshpaye. Tamakoche’s Tiyoshpaye became the leading family, HeMaza (Iron Horn) I became the headman is 1790s after his father TaMakoche. HeMaza’s Sons were Mato Ite-(Bear Face I) and Thatkoka Iyanke-(Running Antelope I). Mato Ite (Bear Face I) became the lead Tiwahe Che-okhba band and his brother Thatkoka Iyanke-(Running Antelope I) became the leading family of the Sore Backs. TaMakoche’s warrior force became known as the Crow Owner Society which helped police the summer gathering when the nations gathered together. This is the life and family Rain in the Face was born into in 1835. Rain In The face as a baby they say he was left out of the tipi suspended in his cradle when a storm broke out with thunder, lightening and rain. As the rain fell on his face the Wakinyan were pleased with the boy. His parents regarded the sign as the presence of the Wakinyan in the storm as a good omen and felt that their son would grow up to be powerful warrior. It is said that Iteomagaju was choose by Wakinyan would be a thunder dreamer a heyoka. Rain in the face’s pictograph of himself shows as the Thunderbird bring rain and lightening into his face. Among his own people he was called Tokitcuwa-(He Who Takes The Enemy). A young man who dreamt of wakinyan or lightening in a vision became known as a thunder dreamer and join the Heyoke Society. The member of this society has to act in a contrary manner with everything, so if it was cold they would say it was hot. The member of the Heyoka Society participated in the heyoke ceremony which included the pulling of a piece of dog meat from a boiling pot. The heyoka believe that the Wakinyan could demand them to kill the enemy but most of the time they made the people laugh. They were made to stand up to Wakinyan and part the storm. If you disobey or angered the wakinyan then you feared for your life, so when a heyoka hears an approaching storm they would return to their lodge and burn cedar to protect themselves. If a heyoka did not obey he would carry cedar everywhere he went and hide from storms. This is the environment that Rain in the Face grew up surrounded by his brothers, who as young children acted out what their parents did as leaders and warriors. Rain in The Face became a powerful built man about five foot nine inches tall. He developed into a war leader, his first battle was with the Crow Tribe, he shows in his own story of his horse was wounded six times as he rode among his adversary and speared the Crow. He first fought against the whites in the summer of 1866 when he participated in a raid against Fort Totten in what is now North Dakota. He was badly wounded in this battle. In 1868, he again fought the U.S. Army in the Fetterman Battle near Fort Phil Kearny in present-day Montana. In 1873 he participated in the Sun Dance where it started to rain and he painted his face half black and half red, and suspended himself for two days until Sitting Bull attached buffalo skulls to his legs to pull him free. He again was on the warpath during the Black Hills War, leading a raid near the Tongue River in which two white civilians accompanying Custer's cavalry were killed. 1873 - Rain-in-Face killed Dr. Honzinger . One soldier and two civilians, Balliran and Honsinger were killed in the first battle. Four men were killed in the second battle. Charles Reynolds (Lonesome Charlie) one of Custer’s scout was watching an Indian dance and heard Rain in the face boast of killing the some white men and went to inform the agent what he heard. Word was brought to Custer that Rain in the Face was boasting that he had killed the two civilians. Custer sent his brother, Captain Tom Custer, and another officer Captain Yates to go to the Standing Rock Agency to put Rain in the Face under arrest. They took 100 men with them and managed to bring Rain in the Face back to Fort Abraham Lincoln where General Custer was stationed. The truth was a Lakota, Wapaypay, and Rain in the Face seized and killed a soldier who was traveling from his fort to his home back East. It had been an ambush, clear and simple, and it was this murder that Rain in the Face was admitting to not Dr. Honzinger. Rain in the Face confessed to the murders and was imprisoned. Not long after, however, a guard who felt badly for the Native American let him escape, and he was never recaptured. The case went to court several years later, and Rain in the Face was tried for murder, but it was decided by the judge that the two men were killed during a battle and therefore the killings were not murder, but the natural happenings of war. Rain in the Face was cleared of all charges. It later came out that Rain in the Face never really understood what he had been imprisoned for, as he did not speak English. He thought he was in prison because of killing a lone soldier, a different man than any from the battle he was arrested for. Rain in The Face’s brother Iron Horn tried to persuade Custer to release his brother from Prison. In the Blue Thunder Winter count it shows Rain in the Face in leg irons in 1874. However, he was freed by a sympathetic soldier from Fort Abraham Lincoln and returned to the reservation, then fled to the Powder River. In the spring of 1876, he joined Sitting Bull and traveled with him to the Little Big Horn River in early June. June 25, 1876 Little Big Horn battle took place. During the subsequent fighting on Custer Hill on June 25, Rain-in-the-Face is alleged to have cut the heart out of Thomas Custer, a feat that was popularized by American poet Henry Wadsworth Longfellow in "The Revenge of Rain in the Face." According to legend, Tom Custer had unjustly imprisoned Rain-in-the-Face. Some contemporary accounts also claimed that the war chief had personally dispatched George Custer as well, but in the confused fighting, a number of similar claims have been attributed to other warriors. Late in his life, in a conversation with writer Charles Eastman, Rain-in-the-Face denied killing George Custer or mutilating Tom Custer. Late in his life, the chief related that the name was reinforced by an incident when he was a young man where he was in a battle in a heavy rainstorm with a band of Gros Ventres. At the end of the lengthy combat, his face was streaked with war paint.
Rain in the Face requested to attend Hampton Institute but was turned down by the Agent Major McLaughlin. Mary S. Collin wrote to General Armstrong to persuade McLaughlin to allow Rain In the Face to attend. McLaughlin reply saying no Rain in the Face was too self-willed and had little prominent. Rain in the Face was said to have seven wives altogether but was hard to get along with, they say he lost two wives at Little Big Horn, one wife reported to have stabbed him, his last wife was found dead one morning in their tipi. He was unlucky with wives. In 1893 Rain in The Face was the major exhibit at Chicago World Fair where he was claimed to be the killer of Custer. He showed off the cabin of Sitting Bull at the World fair. Then in 1901 Rain In The face was taken to Coney Island as an exhibit where he signed autograph for tourist. Rain-in-the-Face died on September 14, 1905 in his home at the Bullhead Station and was buried in Bullhead SD on the Standing Rock Reservation in South Dakota after a lengthy illness. By TaMaka WasteWin-LaDonna Brave Bull
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Post by gregor on Mar 25, 2014 15:09:04 GMT -5
Here we have Rain in the Face in front of Sitting Bull's cabin at the Chicago World Fair in 1893. It is a picture of an old german photograph album. The Caption under the pic is in German. Rain is standing in the middle, a big hat in hand.
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Post by sandi on Sept 5, 2014 18:57:20 GMT -5
Hi Ladonna. All my life I have been told I am also a family relative of Rain in the face. I have been doing my family linage and trying to find out all the info I can. So far, I know of Chief Rain in the face, Chief Mud on the fence or Chief Mud fence ( Not sure) and Little Feather Also known as Anna Lincoln Felter ( christian name ). I've read that Rain in the face had 7 wives to which I am a ancestor not sure of. I would love to know my family heritage for no other then Pride of being his ancestor. My Great Grand Father was ashamed of being Indian for the time period. He didn't want to many knowing so a lot was lost for my family. If you would be so kind in helping me it would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.
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Post by ladonna on Sept 8, 2014 9:17:43 GMT -5
Hi Ladonna. All my life I have been told I am also a family relative of Rain in the face. I have been doing my family linage and trying to find out all the info I can. So far, I know of Chief Rain in the face, Chief Mud on the fence or Chief Mud fence ( Not sure) and Little Feather Also known as Anna Lincoln Felter ( christian name ). I've read that Rain in the face had 7 wives to which I am a ancestor not sure of. I would love to know my family heritage for no other then Pride of being his ancestor. My Great Grand Father was ashamed of being Indian for the time period. He didn't want to many knowing so a lot was lost for my family. If you would be so kind in helping me it would be GREATLY APPRECIATED. Well i dont know about that, Rain in the Face had what i have found out only four wives, all four died, Rain In the Face spent his older years as a widower, The only children was One son, and four daughter, three daughters died at an early age both Angela, Wiyahipiwin and the oldest Otaktewin, one who lived married at Fort Peck Reservation Apesawin who married a Hu-Bone,His only son has descendant today here on Standing rock. Rain in the face was never a chief, but his brothers were, he was a shirt wearer and had his own group a warrior who fought with him, he has no son named Mud fence- and that would not be a name from my people,and if you were from my nation the names would be on the rolls here and they are not
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Post by ladonna on Sept 8, 2014 16:11:40 GMT -5
your grandfather would have been on the rolls here and I looked up Anna L. Felter and it says she is from germany
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Post by sandi on Sept 10, 2014 14:20:58 GMT -5
What I have read is that Rain in the face had 7 wives to which the last one was found with her throat slit. Mud on the fence/Mud fence I was told was Rain in the face's Uncle and Annie lincolnfelter ( little feather) was Mud's sister. I did find a " Mud fence " in the Smithsonian and they did say he was Sioux Indian. It also said Mud Fence was a medicine man. It comes to show everything you read is not true because I have known Rain in the face to be a chief from my family and what I have read on him. I know I have Apache in my linage as well and I'm doing research on that too. It's a sad shame my great grand father had to be ashamed of his heritage because of racism. I am Proud to be Indian. Do the rolls cover all of the Sioux nations or just that part of the tribe? Maybe we can work together and find out more than we thought ? I thank you for all the info you've provided.
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Post by ladonna on Sept 10, 2014 15:08:23 GMT -5
Well i come from Red Thunder; Rain in the face's older brother my friend and relative is Doug Crow Ghost is the only direct descendant of Rain in the Face in our family. Chief Bear face who was Rain in the Face's father gave his title to his second son Iron Horn and then the title went to his third son Bear face II, Rain in the Face was the fourth son and never got the title, he was shirt wearer, but when american write about us they make everyone a chief. Rain in the Face's last two wive were, Wanblinapewin- Rising Eagle and Natewin-Head born 1844. Natewin was found dead and left her children to be raised by relatives. Yes our rolls cover everyone in the tribe.
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Post by ladonna on Sept 10, 2014 15:11:39 GMT -5
Mato Ite-Bear Face I b. 1799 was Rain In the face's father
This is his Uncle, Waaliinyanka-Tramping other while Running b. 1803
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Post by ladonna on Sept 10, 2014 15:14:57 GMT -5
I can not find a Mud on the Fence or a Mud fence on our roll or a part of our people that is the Hunkpapa
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Post by ladonna on Oct 7, 2014 9:27:51 GMT -5
Rain In the Face was never a chief, his Father, Uncle and brother's were chief. he was a heyoka he led a small band of his own men into battles, he never had good luck with his wives and at the end of his life he was a widower. he never raised his children and only had one son to live to adulthood that was Crow Ghost
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Post by Dietmar on Oct 8, 2014 4:17:51 GMT -5
Decost Smith, an artist who visited Standing Rock in the 1880s and 90s, painted Rain in the Face from life in 1890: In his book “Red Indian Experiences” he wrote a whole chapter about him. Like Ladonna said in a post above, his Lakota name was “He Who takes the Enemy”: „So much concerning the name Rain in the Face, but as a matter of fact this was not the name by which he was generally known among his own people, the Uncpapa Sioux, in the days when I saw him often and heard him spoken of daily by friends and relatives. To the whites, it is true, he was, and always had been – always will be – Rain in the Face. They knew him by no other name, but the Sioux called him Tok´-i´-tcu-wa, which means “the Enemy-Taker,” or “He Who Takes the Enemy,” […] Decost Smith: “Red Indian Experiences” London 1949, Page 216
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Post by grahamew on May 1, 2017 10:59:12 GMT -5
Here's a larger version of the photo gregor posted above:
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Post by grahamew on Jun 19, 2017 9:59:46 GMT -5
A picture of Rain in the Face I hadn't come across. No idea who the photographer is, but it looks late 80s/early 90s.
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