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Post by ephriam on Jan 12, 2014 17:25:20 GMT -5
From Vivian One Feather, "Tiospaye: A Curriculum Materials Resource Unit," 1974, p. 33:
COMMUNITIES OF THE WOUNDED KNEE DISTRICT
Wakan Community (also called No. 12 Community) -- the leaders of this community were Lone Elk, No Braids, and Big Turnip. They got their name, Wakan, because of the spiritual medicine of this community. Their leaders were known as Medicine Men, and the "Medicine Dance" was one of their ways of making a sick person get well.
The people in the Wakan Community were prosperous. Lone Elk appointed men to take turns as riders in caring for their large herd of cattle. There was produce raised for families, everyone worked and helped one another. Flocks of chickens, turkeys, pens of pigs, and large herds of horses were everywhere. People did not get sick easily, and there was little to quarrel about.
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Post by ephriam on Feb 14, 2014 20:47:23 GMT -5
Kingsley:
While I am intrigued by your suggestion that the Wakan band is somehow connected to the Oyuhpe leader Trembler/Shaker/Afraid of Holy, I have not been able to find any convincing historical link.
Black Elk and Catcher told Father Buechel that the Wakan band was "of recent date." They noted that the leader of the band was Kiyela Inyanke. Literally, this translates as Runs Near but I suspect they are referring to Francis Runs Against, who is listed first in the 1890 census of the Wakan Band.
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Post by kingsleybray on Mar 19, 2014 4:09:39 GMT -5
Bands went in and out of cycles of growth. So a tiyoshpaye might sink below the radar for a number of years or even decades, to resurface with a new and able leader who claimed some connection back to, e.g. the Wakan, and attracted new followers. A good example is Bad Face, which clearly existed as an important band in the early 1700s, but seems to fade out (differential impact of epidemics?) at the end of the 18th c.Then in generation 1825-50 Smoke's rise to prominence brought the Bad Face back into the limelight. Remember, He Dog told Mekeel that part of the Wakan went to make up the resurgent Bad Face in that 2nd quarter 19th c. So I conclude that the Wakan already existed as a small band (or sub-band of the Oyuhpe) before the 2nd quarter.
My suggestion about Trembler/Afraid of Holy is based simply on the presence of the term Wakan (holy) in his name. Unusual. He doesn't seem to be recorded after the 1860s, at least under that name.
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Post by kingsleybray on Apr 19, 2015 16:20:37 GMT -5
I've had a couple of conversations bearing on the Wakan tiyospaye over the past few months. This is a summary of what I've learned.
"The Wakan Oyate are one band that came from the Oyuhpe-Hunkpatila Oyate. They settled on the Pine Ridge Reservation in a community called Rockyford. Made up of the Flying Hawk -- Respects Nothing -- Mexican -- Weasel - White Plume families -- also the Stone family."
Wakan is a sub-band of Oyuhpe, and it goes back a long time. They originally came from the tiyospaye called Wakan among the Itazipcho (Sans Arc) and Hunkpapa Lakota - these three branches "are all otakuye [considered related]." There is a connection back to the Calf Pipe. Dreamer of the Sun, "the last real Sun Dance Chief of the Hunkpapa" belonged to the Wakan band. The branch that joined the Oyuhpe are said to have come into being in the year 1800, "when they fought across the ice of the Red River of North Dakota with the Ojibwe."
They are called Wakan because there were "lots of healers in this tiyospaye ... there are lots of practicing healers today from the Wakan Oyate, both dreamers and pejuta-wicasa [herbalists]".
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Post by kingsleybray on Apr 7, 2016 7:28:36 GMT -5
On Jan. 11, 2014, I wrote: Lone Bull told Donald Collier in 1939 that the Oyuhpe band "staid in the eastern foothills of the Black Hills. About 200 lodges." He then lists four chiefs
1. Red Warbonnet 2. "tcatcala (nervous) or wakankokipapi (afraid of holy)" 3. Big Road 4. Speckled Face (nb nickname for Slow Bull).Read more: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/1976/wakan-tiyospaye-oyuhpe#ixzz458sYjnGoI had a conversation with an Oglala friend yesterday, in which I asked about the Oyuhpe headman Trembler (Cancan), also translated Shaker -- attested twice in contemporary reports/diaries in 1867. This is the same man as no. 2 in the list from Lone Bull-Collier interview above. It seems Collier or his interpreter misheard Lone Bull. Trembler's other name was not Wakankokipapi (Afraid of Holy), but correctly Wakangli Kokipa, Afraid of Lightning. He is the warrior depicted by Amos Bad Heart Bull ( Pictographic History of the Oglala Sioux, p. 355). My friend confirmed the third alternative name for the same man; he rendered it Huca Se Slasla, translating as Mangy Garter. Trembler/Afraid of Lightning/Mangy Garter did belong to the Wakan tiyospaye of Oyuhpe. His close relatives included "Mexican . . Weasel . . White Plume", all of whom were part of the Wakan sub-band. I mentioned the 1867 list of Oyuhpe leaders given by G P Beauvais and printed in the Annual Report of the Commr of Ind Affrs. The list reads 1. Flying Feather 2. Red Fox 3. Shaker (i.e Trembler) 4. Red Dog I guessed Flying Feather might have been a poor translation of White Plume, but my friend said no: this man was the paternal grandfather of Kicking Bear. His full name was Flying Hawk Feather. He was the Intercessor-Chief holy man at the 1866 Northern Oglala Sun Dance on Tongue river. The name was later shortened to simply Flying Hawk. His family also belonged to the Wakan tiyospaye of Oyuhpe. In my biography of Crazy Horse I also guessed that Red Hawk sr. walked out of the 1853 treaty amendment council at Ft Laramie. My friend said this was correct, and added that Red Hawk also belonged to the Wakan tiyospaye. The Oyuhpe leadership all refused to sign the 1853 amendment -- a sign of their greater conservatism and links to the northern Teton divisions who were more skeptical of the USA than were the Brules and Oglalas.
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Post by runsagainst on Jan 22, 2017 22:36:04 GMT -5
My grandmother, Althea Runs Against, was the youngest child of Moses Runs Against and Delia Picket Pin.
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Post by kakarns on Feb 4, 2017 19:10:24 GMT -5
I've had a couple of conversations bearing on the Wakan tiyospaye over the past few months. This is a summary of what I've learned. "The Wakan Oyate are one band that came from the Oyuhpe-Hunkpatila Oyate. They settled on the Pine Ridge Reservation in a community called Rockyford. Made up of the Flying Hawk -- Respects Nothing -- Mexican -- Weasel - White Plume families -- also the Stone family." Wakan is a sub-band of Oyuhpe, and it goes back a long time. They originally came from the tiyospaye called Wakan among the Itazipcho (Sans Arc) and Hunkpapa Lakota - these three branches "are all otakuye [considered related]." There is a connection back to the Calf Pipe. Dreamer of the Sun, "the last real Sun Dance Chief of the Hunkpapa" belonged to the Wakan band. The branch that joined the Oyuhpe are said to have come into being in the year 1800, "when they fought across the ice of the Red River of North Dakota with the Ojibwe." They are called Wakan because there were "lots of healers in this tiyospaye ... there are lots of practicing healers today from the Wakan Oyate, both dreamers and pejuta-wicasa [herbalists]". Kingsley, Somethings you mentioned really got my attention. 1.) The name of the community at Pine Ridge where the Wakan Oyate settled, named "Rockyford". I am really curious about the originality of, the name of the community. Mostly, due to the fact that my G.G. Grandmother, "Pecokanwin" ("Charging Eagle's" daughter) was born in Rockyford, Colorado in 1864. I am really curious if, they all may have moved from the Rockyford, Colorado area, together. 2.) Questions: a.) Is the "Flying Hawk" you mentioned, Kicking Bear's brother ? b.) You mentioned the "Stone" family. Do you have anymore info. on this family ? c.) I have also added an attachment which is, part of; pg. 2 of my Great Grandmother's, Maggie (Powell) Rousseau "DATA FOR HEIRSHIP FINDING AND FAMILY HISTORY" dated; 09/07/62 Please note the following: This document lists Maggie's Mother as; "Fannie Big Turnip". I am still uncertain of the relevance of the connection that goes with this name as, all of the other documents and family history refers to Mrs. Dan A. Powell being called (for Ex.) "Top Of The Head" aka, "Pecokanwin". I wish I knew where the information came from on this document. Perhaps someday I will find out more info.. Thanks, kakarns
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Post by kakarns on Feb 26, 2017 7:48:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 18:21:11 GMT -5
If it will help, the Tiyospaye Surname Index lists the following individuals as being of the Wakan tiyospaye: freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mikestevens/2010-p/surname_index.htmCut Foot (M)(1824-1895+)(Wakan)(Si Kahunpi)(Sikaska) No Braid (M)(1828-1895+)(Wakan)(Osun Wanica)(Kisunsni)(Psun Wanica) Feather On Head (M)(1831-1904)(Wakan)(Feather In Head)(Wiyaka Aopaza) Shield (M)(1836-1890+)(Wakan)(Wahacanka) Loves War (M)(1845-1895+)(Wakan)(Okicize Tehila)(Okicize Tecila)(Zuya Wastelaka)(Kicize Tekila) Runs Against (M)(1846-1910+)(Wakan)(Icanyan Iyanka)(Wakakinhpeya)(Icaya Inyanke)(Francis Runs Against) Crazy Thunder (M)(1850-1908+)(Wakan)(Wakinyan Witko)(Wankiyan Knaskinapi) Lone Elk (M)(1852-1895+)(Wakan)(Hehaka Isnala)(son of Looking) Breast (M)(1852-1904+)(Wakan)(Maku)(Cantku) Ghost (M)(1853-1890+)(Wakan)(Wanagi)(son of Pretty) Bear Scares (M)(1854-1895+)(Wakan)(Mato Hapawicaya)(Mato Wanapeya)(Mato Mapeyapi)(Mato Habya) Plume (M)(1856-1894+)(Wakan)(Charles Plume) Red Hawk (M)(1857-1890+)(Wakan Oglala Lakota)(Cetan Luta)(Red Hawk Jr.)(son of Red Hawk) Hand (M)(1859-1892+)(Wakan)(Nape) Kills Brave (M)(1860-1890+)(Wakan)(Ohitika Kte) Cane Shield (M)(1866-1890+)(Wakan)(Wahacaka Sagye) Crow (M)(1867-1890+)(Wakan)(Kangi) Ice (M)(1869-1890+)(Wakan)(Caga) freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mikestevens/2010-x/featheronhead10033524.jpg
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