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Post by carlo on Jul 7, 2017 2:48:06 GMT -5
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Post by carlo on Jul 7, 2017 6:12:17 GMT -5
Btw, the top drawing by His Fight/Jaw in my previous post depicts the same event as Grahame posted on page 2 of this thread: the death of one of Jaw's 'brothers' (actually cousin) in a fight with Crows.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 7, 2017 6:13:11 GMT -5
Thanks. That's great, Carlo
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Post by gregor on Jul 7, 2017 6:50:13 GMT -5
At the beginning of the discussion, I was a bit skeptical about the red capes. But I find these posts highly interesting. The color red with many Indian Nations is associated with war or danger, but also with the protection against these dangers. And "red" stands for life-preserving blood. Red blankets were not only found in Lakota physical culture, but also in a transcendent sense. For example, "To give a red blanket" during the Sun Dance. Here blood is sacrificed to obtain the support or the protection of higher powers. See Sitting Bull just before the Battle of Little Bighorn. Or Sun dancers, who have participated four times, are often also honored with a red blanket. The red capes identified IMHO not only leadership personalities during a battle, but have also a protection function. Not for the individual wearer but for the group. A person in a red cape would be noticed in a group of people and the attention would be directed to that person. In warfare, in a battle situation, this would mean a sacrifice for the fellow combatants or a relief for the fellow combatants. I believe this is very well represented in the last 3 drawings. ………. This is my humble theory.
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Post by carlo on Jul 7, 2017 7:23:54 GMT -5
Yes I believe that the red capes had a dual function, denoting leadership on the battlefield as wel as protection for the wearer.
You raise an interesting point that it also added protection for the group, having the enemy focus on the red cape wearer instead of on others.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 7, 2017 10:58:29 GMT -5
Can you make out the name glyph on the last drawing?
Where are these Jaw pictures?
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Post by kingsleybray on Jul 7, 2017 12:38:53 GMT -5
the name glyph - is it a bear's head with the hand or claw scattering dirt?
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Post by carlo on Jul 7, 2017 14:14:21 GMT -5
If you look closely, there are actually two warriors and two name glyphs, one is riding behind the other, in identical fashion and wearing identical clothes! As both discharge their guns simultaneously into the air, I expect they are returning to camp celebrating their victory.
The one in front is Sitting Bear, son of the famous Hunkpapa chief Long Soldier and His Fight's cousin ('brother'), and behind him is His Fight himself. I must admit it is difficult to clearly see His Fight's name glyph as I don't have a hi-res copy, but to me it seems like someone surrounded by hoof prints, i.e. enemies on horseback.
A copy of the ledger book, dated 1884, is in my possession. I have only just started to analyze the drawings. Most are of His Fight himself, some of his cousins Sitting Bear and Hawk Man, and of his comrade Feather Earring. I will post more drawings from it.
Note: in my previous post, I have made an error that the top drawing and the one posted earlier by Grahame depict the death of Sitting Bear. I believe it shows either Sitting Bear or His Fight (need further analysis) but he actually managed to escape from being surrounded by Crows. Sitting Bear was killed in another fight while on horseback.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 7, 2017 14:55:18 GMT -5
Sitting Bear: amertribes.proboards.com/thread/2339/sitting-lakota-drawings-skinner-auctionBut looking at these again, you know what I'm thinking...? The name glyph on two of the drawings is the same as we can see on Jaw drawings earlier in the thread - two hooves with a line between them, surrounded by smaller marks. The Sitting Bear glyph is only on one drawing. Drawing by Jaw Drawing from the 'Sitting Bear' ledger I wonder if the Sitting Bear Ledger is another containing the work of Jaw/His Fight When did Sitting Bear die?
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Post by carlo on Jul 7, 2017 15:09:47 GMT -5
That's very interesting, I believe you are right Grahame! Sitting Bear died in the early to mid-1870s, so it is indeed possible that those drawings are from the hand of His Fight as well. Here is His Fight's depiction of Sitting Bear's death:
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Post by carlo on Jul 7, 2017 15:34:01 GMT -5
Btw, looking at the second drawing in the 'Sitting Bear' thread, I strongly feel this depicts the same event as the two drawings in this thread with the caped man in the bushes shooting his pistol at the enemy. I now think this could be His Fight, and that he was rescued from his predicament by a comrade on horseback.
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Post by grahamew on Jul 7, 2017 16:00:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree!
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Post by grahamew on Sept 1, 2017 3:33:56 GMT -5
Here's a war cape up for sale on Cowan's (formerly from the Pohrt collection):
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Post by carlo on Nov 19, 2017 13:40:14 GMT -5
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Post by Piya Icage Win on Apr 30, 2018 5:38:32 GMT -5
From what I was told, was that in drawings, it may look like capes but were red sashes used by the warrior society. The red sashes mean a lot, and many were passed down, and only few have them, and would use them, because of what they mean.
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