Post by writespretty on Apr 17, 2012 11:04:17 GMT -5
From "The Saga of Ponca Land" by Adeline S. Gnirk Published in 1979 by Gregory Times-Advocate
"Death Takes No Holiday"
"Thomas Red Leaf, an Indian Chief from the Sully Flats, was a frequent visitor at the home of the Ellstons near Herrick, South Dakota. They discussed many incidents or amusing stories during the course of their visit. On this occasion Chief Red Leaf related a story concerning Mr. Summers and his nephew who lived near Chamberlain, South Dakota."
"As Chief Red Leaf recalled, the Summers men had been disputing the location of their new homesite. The nephew came over to the cabin of Chief Red Leaf on the Sully Flats and prevailed upon him to haul two loads of logs to the site he, the nephew, had chosen. In a few days Chief Red Leaf appeared with a load of logs to the designated spot. The uncle was surprised and asked Red Leaf why he came there with the logs. Red Leaf answered 'to build your house.' Uncle Summers exploded in anger and accosted his nephew. The argument waxed hot, both men going for their guns. The uncle ran toward the nearby bank, turned to look back and shot. Simultaneously the nephew shot as his uncle jumped and rolled into the ditch. The uncle was found dead and the nephew was mortally wounded. The dying nephew begged Red Leaf to load him in his wagon and take him home. Red Leaf acquiesced and drove to Chamberlain. Tenderly his people took their nephew from the wagon and laid him on blankets where he soon expired. Red Leaf was amazed to see them cry and exclaimed, 'I didn't think white men cried!'"
Post by kingsleybray on Apr 29, 2012 5:25:28 GMT -5
Dietmar, like you I am very interested in the Red Leaf family. I was taken with your observation that the father of Red Leaf (and so of his full-brother Scatteting Bear killed in the Grattan fight 1854) was also called Red Leaf. Have you more details on this and other areas of the family background. It looks to me that this family was very widely connected to other prominent tiwahe lines. Victor Douville, in his 'History of Sicangu Tiyospayes', formerly accessible on the Rosebud Sioux tribal webiste, indicated that the first chief of the Wazhazha band, once it emerged as an independent group through Lakota-Ponca intermarriage, was Red Leaf I. Victor also stated that it was in 1769, a very definite date, that the Wazhazhas were first welcomed into the Sichangu (Brule) tribal circle. So this Red Leaf, or Red Leaf I, is likely to have been born very roughly about 1725. The generations would point to his grandson being the later Red Leaf (II or III?) who became the father of Scattering Bear et al. Waxpesha is listed in Fletcher & La Flesche THE OMAHA TRIBE, as a clan name in the Wazhazhe clan of the Ponca tribe. The name was considered untranslatable, I suggest because it was actually a Lakota name (Wahpe-sha, Red Leaf) that was acquired during the intermarriage phase in the 1760s. Ponca people have confirmed me to me though that it does mean Red Leaf.
I got the info about Red Leaf´s father bearing the same name in a conversation with a Lakota friend, but I don´t have any more sources to offer right now other than Victor Douville´s site you also mentioned. I keep an eye open though.
As you mentioned earlier (http://www.american-tribes.com/Lakota/BIO/RedLeaf.htm), Red Leaf often let others do the talking for him and stayed back. Quick Bear was one of his major spokesmen, he went to Washington for him in 1870, together with Spotted Tail. These three seem to have been very close, if I remember correctly Spotted Tail´s mother was a relative of Red Leaf.
In newspaper articles from around the 1870s, Red Leaf´s importance as a Lakota leader is plain to see. The New York Times mentioned him as the "the Indian who led the attack at the Fort Phil. Kearny massacre" (NY Times, April 28th, 1870).
Post by kingsleybray on May 12, 2012 8:38:38 GMT -5
According to a report by Agt Twiss, Red Leaf and Scattering Bear were brothers (by implication full-brothers, sharing both parents), their half-brother was Long Chin, and their cousin was Spotted Tail.
Although not certain, my suggestion would be that the mothers of Red Leaf et al. and of Spotted Tail were 'sisters'.
Spotted Tail in 1855 belonged to the same sub-band of Wazhazhas (26 lodges, approx. one-third of the whole Wazhazha band at that time) as his cousins, according to information given by his father to Lt. GK Warren. After his return fromdetention in Fts Leavenworth and Kearney (Sept. 1856)Spotted Tail shifted his affiliation to the Southern Brules.
In the Second Annual Report of the United States Board of Indian Commissioners to the Secretary of the Interior for the year 1870 (page 65), Red Leaf stated in a private conference with Red Cloud and the commissioners, that he has five children:
"Red Cloud says he has six grown children, and Red Leaf had five, all grown; and neither of them had grandchildren"