Naiche's group: (18 p., 8w&tb) Naiche (29), younger son of Cochise and nephew of Mangas. *Nah-De-Yole (27), daughter of Skinya - Paul (4) , ? *E-Clah-Eh (?) - Dorothy (8?), Bas-Ha-kli (1),? *Ha-O-Zinne (15) Beshe (50?), father of Ha-O-Zinne *Tascelona (45?) *U-Go-Hun (40?), mother of Ha-O-Zinne Atelnietze (37), first cousin of Naiche (Cochise's sister side ?) * 1 wife (name, age?)-? Yanozha (31), first cousin of Naiche (Cochise's brother Juan side?) * 1 wife (name?, 20)-? Zhonne (20), half-brother of Ha-O-Zinne, single Hunlona (20), nephew of Beshe,single Tah-Ni-Toe (?), family at San Carlos. Kanseah (15), orderly of Yanozha
Chihuahua's group: (26 p., 11 w&tb) Kla-Esh (63)/Chihuahua * 1 wife (name,age?)- Ramona (10-14?) * 1 wife (name,age?)- Eugene (6-10?) * Ilth-Gazie (25?)- Osceola (3?), Hardcase (6?) * 1 mother in law (name,age?), killed on june 1885 by scouts Ulzana (66), brother of Chihuahua *Nah-Ish-Lah (?)-? *Nah-Zis-EH (?)- 2 children (name,age?) Cathla (45) *?-? Nah-Do-Zinne (?) *?-? Shoie (?) *?-? Ni-Losh (?) *?-? Eskinye (?) *?-? Itsah-Dee-Tsa(?)/José Second *?-? Dodostenay (?), nephew of Chihuahua? Jolsannie (16), son of Ulzana, killed on june 1885 by scouts. *2 women Nes-chila (30?)-1 girl (name,12?), 1 boy(3?) Counteza (20?)
Geronimo's group : (27 p., 8 w&tb) Goyaklay (62)/Geronimo, grandson of Mahko *Mañonetta(?)-? *She-Ga (35)-Little Robe (2)died on 09/1885, 1 girl (name,age?),? *Shatsha he(?),killed on august 1886-? *Zi-Yeh (?)-Fenton (2) *Tay-Ay-Slath (25?)-1 boy (name,5?) Apache name(White Horse)? (33)/Perico, son of Nas-Ti-Dah and second cousin of Geronimo *Ha-Dun-Key(?)-? Yahe-Chul (19)/Fun, half brother of Perico *1 wife (name,19?) Tsina (21), brother of Fun * ?-? Ahnandia (25), second cousin of Geronimo *Tas-De-The (20)-? Moh-Tsos (35) *1 wife (name,age?) Dah-Ke-Ya (25?) *Dohn-Say (20), daughter of Geronimo- Nina (4?) Chappo (19), son of Geronimo * Nochlon (14) *2 women and 1 boy killed on august 1885 by scouts.
Chihennes' group : (23 p., 14 w&tb) Kas-Tziden (85)/Nana, brother in law of Delgadito? *Nah-Dos-Te (65?), sister of Geronimo apache name? (39)/Mangas, son of Mangas Coloradas and uncle of Naiche *Tze-Gu-Jun (40?)/Huera-? *Dilth-Cleyhen (37), daughter of Victorio-?- Istee (10?)son of Victorio *widow of Victorio ?(name,age?) Pet-Zahn (40?)/Frijole, captured 12/1885 and died after on Mexico city *?-? Chinche (35), brother of Ponce and nephew of Cochise?, killed 03/1886 *Cah-Gah-Ahsky (?)- 1 baby boy kidnapped by cow-boys 05/1885 Nachol (?), captured 12/1885 and died after on Mexico city *?-? Nezulkide (30?), brother of Kaathenay *?-? Eskinilteze (60?), son of Delgadito *?-? Len-Sey(20?),single Seltoe(18?),single Goso (17),single Delzhinne (20?), son of Juh,single, captured 12/1885 and died after on Mexico city *mother?(name,age)captured 12/1885 and died after on Mexico city? *second widow of Juh?(name,age?)captured 12/1885 and died after on Mexico city? Daklegon (15), half or brother of Delzhinne, son of Juh,captured 12/1885 and died after on Mexico city Daklugie (14?), half or brother of Delzhinne, son of Juh Franck Mangus (14?), son of Mangas and Dilth-Cleyhen
Nednis' Group: (11 p., 6 w&tb) Nat-Cul-Baye (60?)/José Maria Elias *Dejonah (?)-? *1 wife (name,age?)-? La-Zi-Yah (40?) *1 wife (name?,35?)-? Nah-Bay (45?), brother of La-Zi-Yah * 1 wife (name,40?)-1 girl (name?,1) Nezegochin (?) *?-? Kilthdigai (35) *?-? Azariquelch (19)/Zachia, nephew of Juh?, killed on november 1885,single
Delzhinne, Daklegon and Daklugie traveled with Mangas's band, but were sons of Juh, so they should be included in the Nednhi group... Also, I think Chihuahua and Ulzana are estimated a bit too old in the list, I know Chihuahua's year of birth is usually given as 1822, but the photographs clearly show a younger man... in addition Daklugie stated that Chihuahua was a very young man when Cochise was old... based on these two factors I'd say he was in his mid 50's in 1886, and Ulzana a year or two older. Naiche's year of birth is usually given as 1856 or 1857 and this based on the assumption he was brought along to the Bascom affair as an infant. So far, I have not found a definite statement the child was actually Naiche. In addition, Captain Sladen stated he became friends with Naiche in 1872, when he was about 17 or 18 years old. Stanley in his list of the Apache prisoners at Fort Houston, october 1886, estimated Naiche to be about 35 years old, so he was likely born in the early 1850's...
It make sense about Chihuahua and his brother. Sweeney on his new book said that Chihuahua is 10 years younger that we thought he had. Maybe you are right about Naiche. First he was very close with Atelnietze born around 1848. Second if he was borned on 1856, Dos-Te-Seh, his mother would have 40 years old, an risk age to have children even today with good healthcare. I also think that the full sister of Naiche (for me she is on right on the 2 sisters photo), Naithlotonz was borned around 1855. About the 3 sons of Juh, they seemed to be always with Mangas during the outbreak of 1885. Delzhinne and Daklegon were captured at Casas Grandes with Chihennes of Mangas band. and daklugie surrendered with Mangas on october, 1886. I think they were on Mangas' group for unknown reason. Don't forget that at this time, the Nedni's band didn't exist anymore.
Don't know how parents and son became seperated, but the days prior to the final surrender were very uncertain... perhaps Atelnietze and the others were actually planning to surrender with Naiche ( it is reported that Naiche was waiting for his 'brother' to return, and this indicates Atelnietze was in fact planning to come in with the others), may be the kid was left in the care of relatives while Atelnietze and Dejonah went out and did not return for whatever reason...