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Post by grahamew on Apr 20, 2017 3:06:32 GMT -5
Another Markey - "Goodygooya", war chief:  |
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Post by naiches2 on Apr 20, 2017 4:29:18 GMT -5
One more similar  |
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Post by grahamew on May 22, 2017 16:38:23 GMT -5
Apologies if we've had these before:   San Carlos guardhouse (1888?)  Apache prisoners  Coyotero Apache and 'Mexican prisoner'  Apache scout |
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Post by grahamew on May 24, 2017 14:04:53 GMT -5
Some more...  Crossing the Gila River  Cushets/Tom, White Mountain  Unidentified  Esh-kin-tsay-giza/Mike, White Mountain |
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Post by hope2helpu on Feb 1, 2019 16:44:05 GMT -5
Hello everybody, I am very happy to have been accepted by the board.....I have joined here because I have seen pictures of my Great-grandfather's (Jesse) private and rare collection of photos appearing online lately. These photos by DA Markey are on loan to The Arizona Historical Society under the following reference: Troop G 7th Cavalry, Tucson Stacks, Call#PC 203 Troop G 7th Cavalry Fort Apache, United States Army. If I knew before that there was any kind of forum as this one I would have joined in years ago! But that was then and this is now! Please bear with me as I am only a novice but hopefully I can help identify people, places and dates. First off on Pintrest I saw Jesse's ( my Great-grandfather) DA Markey photo of 3 unidentified men with names written under their feet. He must've known them to write each of their names. I'd like to know myself if anyone can maybe put names to the faces. Jesse was not an educated man and spelt things out as they sounded. I have been searching for years to know their rightful names. The Arizona Historical Society identifies them as possibly White Mountain Apaches. In the picture two men are standing on either side of a young boy sitting down...the man on the right side has a bow and arrow pointing down and is wearing a beautiful darker top with 2 x's embroidered around the elbow area. The man on the left is wearing lighter clothings with a feathered hat, and a young lad in the middle doesn't have anything on his feet. Jesse would purchase the photos when the photographers came into Ft. Apache. Jesse was at Fort Apache 1892-1897. In Jesse's diary he wrote of Peaches whom he was good friends with and they hunted at Ruckers Canyon quite a bit. Also in the diary he knew Naiche and his young son who he said had a crooked arm. He also wrote about ChickenHawk, Skippy Jack or some say Skippy Joe. Finally what I really want to talk about is the photo of Geronimo's En route to exile. Taken by photographer J. McDonald on September 10, 1886. At a rest stop beside Southern Pacific Railway near Nueces River in Texas. This picture can be viewed at The D.C. Archives: American Indians #148 see prisoners. In this picture as all of you know on the bottom row is Geronimo himself and Naiche (please excuse me if I have spelt his name wrong). Jesse identifies the other men on the bottom row. Yes the picture was taken before Jesse enlisted but he served with the men in the 7th Cavalry 7yrs after the date of the photo. So would anyone like to know the names Jesse wrote this photo? Finally figured out how to post an image.  |
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Post by chicheman on Feb 2, 2019 16:35:16 GMT -5
hope2helpu, welcome and thanks for sharing this, very interesting to read things about your grgrandfather and the Nde he knew. About the names on the photo, I couldn´t read them well, could you spell them for us perhaps ? Thanks and greetings from Germany.
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Post by hope2helpu on Feb 3, 2019 11:48:08 GMT -5
Hi chicheman, thank you for the welcome. I actually saw the picture here that has been enhanced greatly on page 3 of Old photos-Apache. Which looks GREAT the best enhancement I have ever seen of the photo! I seriously had a tear in my eye! The DA Markey I posted is the original the others I have seen have been trimmed down. Perhaps we can all check it out now and hopefully somebody can maybe understand the names at the bottom by their feet. In my previous post I gave dates 1892-1897 when Jesse was at Fort Apache. So that narrows the dates and places down a bit.
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Post by hope2helpu on Feb 4, 2019 8:16:00 GMT -5
 Here is another picture from Jesse's collection. This photo was taken in 1893 by George A. Brown Jesse wrote the date of 1893. Showing Chief Naiche (according to Jesse)with his family. The Arizona Historical Society believes it to be in the area of Pinetop, Arizona due to the trees and landscape. Jesse worked at Pinetop sawmill for quite a few months. As you can see Jesse wrote "other side read" and "1893" What he wrote on the back was "All they had around here was a bootleg shack and a RR (railroad) far up the trail. The stuff we drank was called Days of 49. As soon as you popped the bottle open you were drunk. Them boys know how to do it right. I know this man in the picture CNaichee |
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 4, 2019 12:03:59 GMT -5
Good picture! Thanks.
Chief Naiche was soldier at Mount Vernon barracks, Ala in 1893. And he lived in log cabin, not wickiup that time.
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 4, 2019 12:11:24 GMT -5
Coley by Wittick or Randall, 1884 (?)  |
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 4, 2019 12:12:57 GMT -5
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Post by naiches2 on Feb 4, 2019 12:13:37 GMT -5
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Post by hope2helpu on Feb 4, 2019 14:20:41 GMT -5
Hi Naiche...glad you like the photo! Very handsome man! That photo was taken by George A. Brown. Hmmmmmmm well makes ya wonder about the jacket he is wearing. Could it be a son??? I can give you the information on Jesse's collection. As I said I am a novice who just happened to have a Gr-granddad as a collector of pictures.
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Post by grahamew on Feb 4, 2019 15:38:14 GMT -5
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Post by hope2helpu on Feb 4, 2019 17:01:25 GMT -5
Wow....wow wow and wow! I really love them all! I took my time and checked them all out! Thanks for sharing! So I took a better picture...this one is a direct copy of the original. This one is much better! I also added another picture.   |
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