Joined: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 833 Location: Greven, Germany
Early Modoc photos? « Thread Started on Jun 24, 2008, 1:49pm »
We all know the photographs of the Modoc leaders of the war in 1872/73, Captain Jack, Black Jim, Scarface Charley, etc. . Mostly they were taken after imprisonment with cut hair and prisoner outfit.
This photo of Kintpuash aka Captain Jack, the most famous Modoc leader, was taken many years before, probably in 1863. I wonder if there were others that show more traditional Modoc outfits.
Re: Early Modoc photos? « Reply #1 on Jun 25, 2008, 2:58am »
Tremendous photo, which I see has become the acceptable one on various reference siotes. If this really is him, there must be, although I've never come across any.
If you hadn't named him, I would've taken this for a photo of a Ute, although it doesn't look like the Ute Captain Jack and it does look like Kintpuash. He'd be about 26 at the time. He seems to be wearing spurs and are they boots he has on under his leggings? Of course, we seldom know the circumstances in which the photo was taken.
What makes me wonder, is that this picture was supposedly taken in 1860: U.S. Army Lt. Lorenzo Lorain took this photograph of a group of Klamath and Modoc Indians in the summer or fall of 1860.
Joined: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 833 Location: Greven, Germany
Re: Early Modoc photos? « Reply #2 on Jun 25, 2008, 3:48am »
Mmmh, I am not sure... a little hard for me to believe this photo was takes as early as 1860, when it wa dificult for photographers to take their equipment into the field. I think most of the photographs of Indians before 1868 were made in the studio. What do you think?
Re: Early Modoc photos? « Reply #3 on Jun 25, 2008, 5:59am »
But I have seen photos of Arapahoes from the late 50s and Bierstadt photographed Indians from this period too.
I may be well off here, but I've always thought the Modoc clothing a result of years and years of interaction with whites. On the other hand, ten years is a long time...
Re: Early Modoc photos? « Reply #4 on Aug 28, 2009, 9:28pm »
I found this interesting photo of Modocs on E-bay
And description CDV photograph
Modoc Indians C. 1870s Principal Warriors and Women in Their New Homes
Included in the photo are prominent warriors such as "Scar-Faced Charley" and his family and also the wife and sister of the infamous "Captian Jack" and Bogus Charley, Faithful William and Hooka Jim. Also, Capt. Wilkinson of the Third Infantry, U.S.A. and Agent Jones at the far right. Photographed by McCarty, Baxter Springs, Kansas. On the back of the photograph it lists the names of all the people in the photo(please see photos below).
![[Home]](http://s1.images.proboards.com/menu/home.gif)
![[Help]](http://s1.images.proboards.com/menu/help.gif)
![[Search]](http://s1.images.proboards.com/menu/search.gif)
![[Login]](http://s1.images.proboards.com/menu/login.gif)
![[Register]](http://s1.images.proboards.com/menu/register.gif)
![[Search This Thread]](http://s1.images.proboards.com/search2.gif)
![[Send Topic To Friend]](http://s1.images.proboards.com/buttons/sendtopic.gif)
![[Print]](http://s1.images.proboards.com/buttons/print.gif)
Author
![[avatar]](http://www.american-tribes.com/images/Dietmar.jpg)
![[homepage]](http://s1.images.proboards.com/buttons/www_sm.gif)
![[image]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/56/Captain_Jack.jpg/300px-Captain_Jack.jpg)
Logged
![[image]](http://i29.tinypic.com/3hl37.jpg)
![[avatar]](http://www.american-tribes.com/messageboards/dietmar/naichesavatar.jpg){kind=avatar}
![[image]](http://i27.tinypic.com/1zeh6k4.jpg)
![[image]](http://i30.tinypic.com/in9578.jpg)
![[image]](http://i32.tinypic.com/10d83kh.jpg)