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Post by lmdella on Oct 1, 2011 19:21:21 GMT -5
Hi, everyone. Just came across this website by a fluke. Hoping somebody can give me some help -- I'm impressed by the amount of information many of you have readily available.
My maternal great-grandmother (born in 1895) was half "Lakota." Her mother was white and her father, known off the reservation as "John Ray," was Native American. The family story has long been that he was a son(?) of Red Cloud and that his Native name was Many-Scars-on-the-Face (I think that's right -- I don't have my paperwork handy right now to confirm). He and my great-great-grandmother were married in Union County, Oregon (I keep meaning to hunt up a copy of the document but I live several hundred miles away and I don't want to do it by mail-order), probably around 1885, but, of course, it's anyone's guess how much factual information he may have reported, considering the times.
I haven't been able to find anything on the Internet for either name, especially as relating to Red Cloud. I'm hoping one of you might have some further thoughts. Thanks!
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Post by miller7513 on Oct 7, 2011 7:05:44 GMT -5
lmdella-please e-mail me at lmiller7513@comcast.net
LaDeane Miller
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Post by ladonna on Oct 7, 2011 15:39:13 GMT -5
The dates you have could not be Red Clouds Daughter.
Here are Red Clouds Children
Children of Chief Red Cloud and Mary Good Road
Daughter: Julia Red Cloud b. 1850
Daughter: Louise Red Cloud+ b. 1854, d. after 18932
Son: Jack Red Cloud+ b. 1858, d. Jul 1, 19182
Son: Tells Him Red Cloud b. 1860
Son: Charge At+ b. 1861
Son: Comes Back b. 1867
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Post by ladonna on Oct 7, 2011 15:42:28 GMT -5
Julia Red Cloud (1850 - ), #189
She was Oglala Lakota. Also known as Julia Long Soldier. She married Long Soldier. Julia was born in 1850. A Red Cloud family genealogy, in the form of an heirship affidavit held by the South Dakota State Historical Society, states that Red Cloud's first daughter, Wears War Bonnet (later Julia Long Soldier) was born about 1850. She was the daughter of Chief (?) Red Cloud and Mary Good Road.
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Post by ladonna on Oct 7, 2011 15:45:26 GMT -5
Louise Red Cloud (1854 - after 1893), #81
The nationality of Louise Red Cloud was Oglala Lakota Sioux; Bad Face Band of the Oglala Lakota. She was Catholic. Louise was born at Wyoming Territory, USA, in 1854. She was the daughter of Chief Red Cloud and Mary Good Road.As of circa 1866,her married name was Richard. She married Peter Richard circa She was listed as residing with her husband Peter Richard on the U.S. Indian Census Rolls taken on July 1, 1890 at Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, Flat Bottle, Shannon Co., South Dakota, USA.
Those are the two daughter's of Red Cloud
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Post by gregor on Oct 8, 2011 10:12:46 GMT -5
Hi from Germany!
According to my informations, Red Cloud's (1822 - 1909) children with Pretty Owl aka Tamachechawin aka Mary Red Cloud aka Mary Good Road (abt 1835 - 1940!!!) go like this:
1. Wears-War-Bonnet aka Julia Long Soldier (* abt. 1850 - ?)
2. Louisa Richard / Reshaw (* abt. 1854 - 1893 ?)
3. Man Above aka Jack Red Cloud (* abt. 1858 - 1918)
4. Libbie Slow Bear (? - ?)
5. Watakpe or Charge At aka Mrs. John Kills-Above (*? - aft. 1900)
6. Tells Him aka Fannie Chase Alone (* abt 1860 - aft. 1900)
But there are still some questions open. It would be good to have a Red Cloud here to fill the gaps.
CU
Gregor
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Post by miller7513 on Oct 9, 2011 17:55:48 GMT -5
Re: Trying to confirm family relationship to Red C #'s 2-3-4-5 Read more: amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=oglala1&action=display&thread=1328#ixzz1aKOs8eqtIn my records Children of Red Cloud (---) and Mary Good Road (---) were as follows: + 5 I Wears War Bonnet2 (---), born 1844 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 29 Oct 1924 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. She married (1) Long Soldier (---); (2) unknown. Wears War Bonnet census-30 Jun 1900 Pine Ridge pg 223 Julia + 6 ii Matilda2 (---), born 1849 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 20 May 1925 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. She married Grant Short Bull. + 7 iii Fanny Hard Woman2 (---), born 1850 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 8 Apr 1930 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. She married American Horse (---). + 8 iv Hay Leg2 (---), born 1854 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 1925 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. She married Very Good (---). + 9 v Louise2 Red Cloud, born 1856 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 1900 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. She married Peter Richard. + 10 vi Jack2 Red Cloud, born 1858 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 1 Jul 1918 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. He married (1) Good Cloud; (2) Nancy Poor Elk. + 11 vii Charges At2 (---), born 1861 in Oglala Sioux Nation; died 7 Oct 1937 in Pine Ridge, Shannon, South Dakota. She married Kills Above (---). + 12 viii Told To Her2 (---), born 1864 in Oglala Sioux Nation. She married (1) Chase Alone (---); (2) Adolph Lone Elk. LaDeane Miller |
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Post by 1prettywoman on Jan 18, 2012 23:56:19 GMT -5
does any one know about Charges At who married Kills Above... who are their children. I'm trying to make the connection of Runs Above to Red Cloud
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Post by saskia21 on Feb 13, 2021 14:32:47 GMT -5
does any one know about Charges At who married Kills Above... who are their children. I'm trying to make the connection of Runs Above to Red Cloud I have found them in the 1897 Pass Creek district : Kills Above 32 Charges At 35 Runs Close to Edge 4/5 - ( John Kills Above in 1900 census) Maggie Kills Above 3months 1900 Census same district: Kills Above 35 Charges at 38 John Kills Above son 7 Maggie Kills Above daughter 3 Angeline Kills Above daughter 1 All still alive in 1907 Census |
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Post by Mitchell BigHunter on Feb 16, 2021 23:03:54 GMT -5
ImDella Keep Looing if u haven't found it. Oral history is everything with the Sioux. We haven't told everything to the wasicu back then. and they tried to hide if they were half or they would be treated different. still like that today. Hope you found your truth Tiwahe. Echin waciyake kte do.
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