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« Reply #45 on Nov 7, 2009, 2:02pm »
LaDonna,

I will ask Ernie. We'll see where it goes.

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« Reply #46 on Nov 10, 2009, 9:07am »
So far this is just an ideal for a history conference on Sitting Bull
I have not talked with Sitting Bull College yet but will this coming week.



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« Reply #47 on Nov 13, 2009, 3:31am »
Ladonna,

I sent Ernie your invitation word for word.

Ernie answered that before he can speak at Standing Rock it would require a Wiping of Tears ceremony for he and his two remaining sisters (Lydia died a few weeks ago) with the reservation. Also he would like to be contacted privately rather than in a third party manner in a chat room. I can give you his email and phone number if you message me.
Also he wants to let everyone know he rejects the title of historian, he is only Sitting Bull's great grandson that tells only his own family oral history and will not try tell others.
Personally I think it would be wonderful if there was a Wiping of the Tears. I think it would take a great weight off not just the family's shoulders but of the band's shoulders. Tell the powers up there that stubbornness and a buck fifty buys a cup of coffee. ;-)
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Re: Sitting Bull
« Reply #48 on Nov 13, 2009, 1:40pm »
Ladonna,

I have a question for you. My family always said we were closely related to Sitting Bull and as you know Spotted Eagle was very close to Sitting Bull staying in Canada until hunger finally forced them back to the U.S. I'm wondering if this relationship was through Sitting Bull's mother? I know that when my Aunt taught school at Little Eagle the people there acknowledged the close relationship with our family. One of our grandfathers Moses Red Bird also spoke about the close relationship when two of our women married at Standing Rock. I know it's difficult to varify these relationships and all I have is the oral history of my family. This is the Itazipcho relatives.
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Re: Sitting Bull
« Reply #49 on Nov 17, 2009, 11:49am »

Nov 13, 2009, 3:31am, brock wrote:
Ladonna,

I sent Ernie your invitation word for word.

Ernie answered that before he can speak at Standing Rock it would require a Wiping of Tears ceremony for he and his two remaining sisters (Lydia died a few weeks ago) with the reservation. Also he would like to be contacted privately rather than in a third party manner in a chat room. I can give you his email and phone number if you message me.
Also he wants to let everyone know he rejects the title of historian, he is only Sitting Bull's great grandson that tells only his own family oral history and will not try tell others.
Personally I think it would be wonderful if there was a Wiping of the Tears. I think it would take a great weight off not just the family's shoulders but of the band's shoulders. Tell the powers up there that stubbornness and a buck fifty buys a cup of coffee. ;-)


I just thought it would be nice
I have no rights to do ceremonies so that is not my department. Maybe the family should be in charge of something like that. Not me.

This was going to be a history conference for all the authors who wrote about Sitting bull to come to the reservation as well native speakers.

The Chairman, Charles W. Murphy is not invovled in this in fact he is Yanktonais. We are working with Sitting Bull college for this conference
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« Reply #50 on Nov 17, 2009, 7:23pm »
LaDonna,

Not my call. That's what he said.

I believe from Ernie and his sister's perspective (especially his eldest sister) he's including the police force which was an arm of the agency bureaucracy. He sees this as bigger than just family. My gut says that if Murphy is a good politician (Yanktonai or not he's still seen as the head of Standing Rock) he'll figure out how to pull this off since he represents Standing Rock. It would at least open some channels and may begin to eliminate the cloud that hangs over much of the Sitting Bull dialogue including commerce perceptions.


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Re: Sitting Bull
« Reply #51 on Nov 18, 2009, 9:17am »
I still think this is a family issues with the hunkpapa
I really don't want to get invovled with those peoples
issues down there in Rock creek.
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« Reply #52 on Nov 28, 2009, 9:20am »
Hello everyone,
there is a new kid in town. My name is Gregor and I live in Germany in the neighborhood of our friend Dietmar. Dietmar and I met during the great Sitting Bull exhibition in Bremen/Germany in 2008. Since then, we had a lot of discussions about the Lakota and especially sitting Bull issues. I’m researching for several years about the Lakota and Sitting Bull, and had the great luck to meet Ernie LaPointe, first via Internet and later in person in South Dakota and Germany. Ernie, a very special and generous person (If you read this Ernie – greetings from Germany, hope to see you next year!). I visit this wonderful knowledge base for some years and freeze up again and again in awe of the deep knowledge and understanding of many members. In particular, Kingslay Bray and Ephriam Dickson inspire me again and again. I have long been reluctant to participate here, finally Dietmar convinced me. Among Lakota / Bio / Sitting Bull you will find a list of my Sitting Bull photographs with commentaries. In this regard, a very special THANK YOU to Diane Merkel & Dietmar. Because this site has given me so much information and insight – in the future I will try to give something back. Bye for now! Yours Gregor
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Re: Sitting Bull
« Reply #53 on Nov 28, 2009, 10:11am »
Hi Gregor,

I´m very glad you joined us eventually!!! I´m sure your contributions will enrich our discussions, especially when we talk about Sitting Bull and the Lakota.

Everyone who is interested in Sitting Bull photographs should take a look at Gregor´s files Diane has just uploaded. I will start an own thread for comments on them.

Grüße nach Münster!

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