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« Reply #135 on Oct 7, 2009, 10:38am »
I think it is a Rinehart photo, although the handwriting is different... meanwhile this one is definitely Rinehart, it show Takes the gun, sometimes called Shorty:

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and two Curtis pics for comparison:

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« Reply #136 on Nov 1, 2009, 2:20am »
Bull Goes Hunting (most probably late 1890s)

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« Reply #137 on Nov 5, 2009, 2:42am »
Curley with Mrs. Crawford, Anna Petzoldt and unknown woman, early 1900

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« Reply #138 on Nov 5, 2009, 7:19am »
Love the Bull goes hunting portrait! Meanwhile, I found a Curley picture I do not recall having seen here before:

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« Reply #139 on Nov 6, 2009, 6:50am »
The above photo is a portrait by Fred Miller - I remember having seen it, maybe in the LBH boards. Here's a another photograph of Curley, taken at the 1903 Sheridan fair:

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« Reply #140 on Nov 6, 2009, 7:15am »

Nov 6, 2009, 6:50am, jinlian wrote:
The above photo is a portrait by Fred Miller - I remember having seen it, maybe in the LBH boards.


It's in Field O'Connor's "Fred E. Miller: Photographer of The Crows" (1985), plate 64.
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« Reply #141 on Nov 6, 2009, 9:03am »
Thank you, TIpifan.
Here's another one from the McCracken collection:

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Crow man with war paint and stuffed bird on hair-top. I've a strong feeling to have seen another picture of this man. Two Whistles sounds like a too-easy guess, though.
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« Reply #142 on Nov 6, 2009, 10:08am »
But a correct guess nonetheless! Here's some more Curtis photographs showing Two Whistles.


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« Reply #143 on Nov 6, 2009, 10:35am »
Yes, having a closer look, the arm could be missing, not just hidden...
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« Reply #144 on Nov 6, 2009, 10:57am »

Nov 6, 2009, 10:35am, jinlian wrote:
Yes, having a closer look, the arm could be missing, not just hidden...


Forgive my ignorance, I haven't known about Two Whistle's missing arm. Now that I know, I discover quite a few things on that photo from the McCracken collection that I couldn't explain before. Also interesting to see the way he wears his war shirt with the sleeve fringes to the front. From the saddle horn hangs a beaded vest. Can anyone explain this strange dress-up?

I flipped over the picture so the visible hand corresponds with the Curtis photos


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« Reply #145 on Nov 6, 2009, 11:04am »
Well, it was silly of me not to check that detail right away...In the Sword Bearer outbreak (1887) Two Whistles was shot in the arm and breast, and his arm was amputated above the elbow (source: E.S. Curtis, The North American Indian).
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« Reply #146 on Nov 7, 2009, 2:55am »
Jinlian,
I once read (don't recall where) that Two Whistles was somehow related to Medicine Crow, is that so?
Also, I came across this "Curly" picture:
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« Reply #147 on Nov 7, 2009, 6:54am »
HI Jeroen,
I don't remember reading of Two Whistles and Medicine Crow's kinship, they belonged to different clans (Medicine Crow to the Newly Made Lodges and Two Whstles to the Not Mixed one) which means that their mothers weren't related, but of course,they could have been related by paternal side. I'll check that later.
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« Reply #148 on Nov 7, 2009, 3:34pm »

Nov 7, 2009, 2:55am, jeroen wrote:

Also, I came across this "Curly" picture:


Curly? Bird-On-The-Ground immediately comes to my mind: same racecourse, same horse with same trappings, same ermine shirt, same coupstick, same little purse as on that famous photograph of Bird-On-The-Ground on the horse (a bit overdressed on that photo, with gun case, bandoleer bag. Even the same bonnet is hanging down from the horse's back, behind Bird OTG.
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Re: Crow Photographs - individuals
« Reply #149 on Nov 8, 2009, 3:15am »
Hi Tipifan,
I agree it is not Curly (it does not look like him at all), that's why I used the quotation marks... It is incorrectly identified in the right corner below, just did not know who it actually is...
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